Blue Collar Muse

[…] Collar Muse has put together a good analysis of Barack Obama’s victory speech, dissecting his words, and taking them at their plain […]

This is something entirely different that our country has not faced in a long time. It is time for true conservatives to make their views known and their voices heard. Obama talked about hope. Let’s HOPE he does not wreck this country too much.

To make a long story short, Barack Obama will not change a single thing for the better anyways. Let’s brace ourselves for another four years of misery.

[…] first one comes from our friend Ken at Blue Collar Muse. Ken asks the question, is President Hussein “my president” or “the […]

Chuck,

McCain himself was a compromise on the parts of Conservatives.

[…] me preface this with a link to Blue Collar Muse who expresses one of my points more articulately than I ever could. That is, He is NOT my President. […]

As a libertarian I think it’ll be years before MY president sets foot in office. The current run-up for the title seems to be to promise your supporters to use the role as a way to buy them what they want. (Security for Republicans, Socialism for Democrats.)

While Obama and his Magic Fairy Dust are not my idea of a great commander in Chief and Head of the Executive Branch, I refuse refuse REFUSE to spend the next 4 to (god forbid) 8 years acting like so many Democrats have been acting since 2000.

I refuse to run around the Internet kicking and screaming and calling the President a Liar and acting like a spoiled child who didn’t get her way on election day.

Obama and I have many disgreements. I will voice them as an adult with the right to voice them in America. I will work to show what I believe to be the error in his decision making. But I will not be ashamed of myself. I encourage other non-Obama supporters to do the same. Adulthood is made of acceptance of unwelcome truths. Death. Taxes. The Obama Presidency.

I understand what you’re trying to say, Ken, but he IS your President, the same way Bush was their president for 8 years.

No Kat, sorry but you can’t have it both ways. You cannot say you understand and then commit logical equivocation by saying Ken’s argument is the same as the Lefts argument from the past 8 years. Obama is NOT our President in the same way Bush was NOT their president for 8 years. There is a fundamental epistemilogical difference that cannot be ignored where Obama is in complete opposition to our founding documents while Bush was not. They did not like Bush for personal reasons. Our foundational documents did not support their dislike. Now we find that we do not like Obama for both personal AND foundation reasons. It is a difference with distinction.

Ken’s argument isn’t the same, but the end reaction IS the exact same thing. A bit of poutery and floor-kicking and harumphing about who “speaks for me” and whatnot.

I know plenty of far-leftites who do think (and have some good arguments for why) that Bush2 was in direct opposition to our founding documents.

This day in age there is not going to be any consensus on the president. But it doesn’t do any good to say “you are not my president” when the fellow is, indeed, the elected head of the Executive Branch and, as I may make very clear time and again…YOUR EMPLOYEE.

If you want him to work for you, you can’t claim he isn’t your employee. It’s best to just acknowledge the situation and then work the angles. Like a bad poker hand.

Missing from all of this of, course, is that I was taking up the theme Obama opened with.

He is the one who said “… to those Americans whose support I have yet to earn — I may not have won your vote, but I hear your voices, I need your help, and I will be your President too.”

It is Obama who recognizes that he is not the President of a great many Americans. He said it, not me. I just agreed with him. I also pointed out that for a great many of us, his intention to become our President is a futile. He can hope for change in that regard but it’s unlikely to get him far with that crowd.

Having read some of these comments, Kat, I completely agree. As a libertarian I can say with great confidence that for the last hundred & fifty years the office of president has been in the hands of men whose decisions and actions were sometimes in direct opposition to either the Constitution or the will of the Founding Fathers.

For those of us who voted for Bush (and later regretted it), it was difficult to stand all the venom spewed over his election and then his later decisions. The “dissent” was nothing but childish feet-stomping. I will not be that kind of opposition party. I will not act like the Democrats have for the last 8 years decrying every single decision, right or wrong, that Bush has made.

If Obama does something good, I believe we have a duty to acknowledge it. We should respect the office of the president whether he is the president we wanted or not. We should not, however, support ideas and decisions that are contrary, not just to our delicate sensibilities, but to the Constitution.

I will never support socialism or the limitation of the 2nd amendment. I also will never support or defend militarism abroad or wiretapping or any of a number of things that “my” president has done the last 8 years.

The next 4 years are going to be difficult enough with the present circumstances, let’s not make them any harder.

Ken, your premise, I believe was that when a president supports things that are contrary to the Constitution, in those things he is not “your” president nor would he be mine. That fact seems to have been lost among the comments.

We’ll see. There’s a dearth of substantive conservatives at the moment, and a wealth of the leftist fascist sorts. Sarah Palin was much preferable to Baracky Alinsky Obama, and soon enough we’ll see just how bad he can be.

This nation needed a wake up call to return to conservatism. That wake up will happen sooner than later, and it will be an unpleasant experience for most, for the shallow sorts who voted on vacuous slogans of HOPE and CHANGE and little else. You’ve no idea how poorly you’ve chosen.

Within 3 years, we’ll see 10-15% unemployment, the bankruptcy of GM and some other big-name corporations, and probably the sale of Exxon-Mobil’s American operation to Hugo Chavez. We’ll see housing starts off 20+% from 2008. We are in for the worst times anyone alive in the US today has ever seen, and we have elected a socialist who disdains capitalism to the helm. And we’ve given a green light to terrorists worldwide, given the historical weakness of Democrats to national security and foreign policy.

If I weren’t caught up in this mess, I would probably enjoy seeing the stupid looks on leftist’s faces when the reality sets in that, no, they aren’t progressively moving forward to their hoped-for utopia, but being dragged kicking and screaming to a lower class and status than they ever imagined, by a regime that might prove to be the end of the line for the good ole’ USA. But at least everyone will be equally treated by Obamanomics, aka trickle-up poverty.

George Bush might be considered by historians to be the last true President of the United States.

Chew on that, leftists.

I can tell ya, the Israelis are worried.

What amazes me is how many people only hear the sugar coating of his rhetoric but can’t parse the reality of his words. I blame the media, but I especially blame the Republicans - for there doesn’t seem to be anyone left in the party of Reagan who is capable of going toe to toe in a ideological debate with Obama.

When Obama said healthcare should be a right, why didn’t McCain say “why shouldn’t food be a right Barack? Everyone needs food in order to survive. Why shouldn’t housing be a right? Clothing? Transporation? A college education? A job???

I’ll tell you why: McCain isn’t a Conservative and doesn’t think like a conservative. Nor are most in the Republican party. Most of these people are focused on coddling the public with sweet lies.

Sounds much like my post”Arbeit Macht Frei”. But much more eloquent. You’re going on MY blogroll too!

I didn’t vote for Hussein because he isn’t a true American. If he was we could see his birth certificate. PLUS, he believes in murdering unborn children……
Further proof Jesus should be here soon AGAIN.

@BeerBaron -

I’ll take that bet and even raise you. The only people living in reality are those who understand that Obama has the potential to make the Carter Administration look like the Reagan years when it comes to national Prosperity.

Your confident assertion that Obama will be a benefit to the nation is about as well grounded as Obama’s assertions that “Hope” and “Change” are sufficient details for his plans when courting voters.

53% of the voters may have voted for him but I suspect they were really voting for destructive promises to give them more at the expense of those producing what is to be given. Just as in my family, if you ask for a vote on who wants candy, The Much Younger Trophy Wife and I would be outvoted by a landslide 67%-33%. That sound like a mandate but the reality is that the children are selfishly voting for childish things and the adults ought to declare the election results invalid.

In the case of the nation, the children have overrun the adults and are busy exulting at their coming candy. When there is no more candy, however, because people like you have voted it all away, you won’t mind if I tell them it’s your fault and send them to your house to collect the next confectionary payment, I’m sure. If fact, even if it costs your family dearly to “spread the candy wealth” around, you won’t mind because you are so committed to making sure the other guy has so much of my money, you’ll realize it’s now your turn to pony up some cash.

Sheesh … truly there are none so blind …

Yes I am terrorist gay muslim atheist socialist comminest and I hate teh babys and I kill guns and you no have rights and I hate whitey. . . I am barack HUSSEIN OSAMA BIN BIDEN LADEN ****BAMA!!!!!! (BCM Language Alert: Comment edited in the interest of family participation.)

(this is the basic conservative view of Obama)