There are a couple very interesting articles about Rudy Guiliani’s presidential ambitions over at Lifenews.com.
First: “Rudy Guiliani Says He’s Running for President, Abortion a Turnoff”
Rudy Giuliani falls squarely in the pro-abortion camp, though he’s been trying to reassure pro-life voters lately he’s not that bad.
During the CNN interview, he tried to play down his pro-abortion views.
“I am pro-choice, but I am also, as you know, against abortion. Hate abortion. Never liked it,” Giuliani said.
He indicated he thought GOP voters could support him based on other issues.
“There is understanding that you can’t find a candidate you agree with 100 percent of the time,” Giuliani said. “I think they will vote for a candidate based on leadership.”
That was such selected emphasis on my part. I mean, the entire article could be emphasized. To address his last point first, I do not care how well he handled September 11, 2001. It’s over. And I’m not trying to sound crass by saying that. But I feel like we have grown as a country and moved on to slightly more important tasks - such as preventing terrorism rather than dealing with it as it happens. I’ll repeat what I have said before, “America’s Mayor” is not my mayor and he will never be my president.
Now, onto his completely illogical views concerning abortion. Unfortunately, many people hold the same views: “Oh, me? I hate abortion. Terrible stuff. But you know, who am I to impose that on someone else?” I just have one question for those people: Why do you hate abortion? Seriously, what is so wrong with it that you would “hate” it? Yet, what is so right about it that it should still be legal, given the fact that you hate it?
I’ll be a bit presumptuous and answer my own question. People hate abortion because it disgusts them. Deep inside, they recognize that there is something inherently wrong with ending a pregnancy and murdering an unborn child. It is not good for the child, it is not good for the mother, and it is definitely not good for society. It inspires hatred. Whereas this hatred motivates some individuals to fight and speak out against abortion, there are other spineless people that would rather not go through the trouble. Spineless Person #1: Rudy Guiliani. (And that’s assuming that he truly hates abortion.)
The funny thing is, Guiliani really thinks that Republicans will vote for him even though he is radically pro-choice. Here’s where the second article comes into play: “Some GOP Voters Wrongly Think Rudy Guiliani is Pro-Life on Abortion”
A new Fox News poll released yesterday finds that only 42 percent of GOP voters correctly identified Giuliani as pro-abortion. Some 21 percent say he’s pro-life and another 36 percent don’t know where he stands.
Giuliani’s high poll numbers will likely drop once more voters find out he supports abortion.
That’s because the poll showed 46 percent of GOP voters are less likely to support a pro-abortion candidate — with 36% a lot less likely and 10 percent somewhat less likely. Only 22 percent are more likely to support an abortion advocate.
That means nearly half of the people who will make the decision at the ballot box in early 2008 as to who will represent the Republican Party in the next election will be less inclined to back Giuliani and about 60 percent of GOP voters have yet to find out that he supports abortion.
Those numbers could be why Giuliani has been soft-peddling his pro-abortion stance in recent media interviews.
During a CNN interview this week where he said he was definitely running for president, he tried to play down his pro-abortion views.
“I am pro-choice, but I am also, as you know, against abortion. Hate abortion. Never liked it,” Giuliani said.
I just had to keep the “hate abortion” quote again. It’s priceless, really. But I hope that the analysis here is correct, that GOP voters really don’t know how pro-abortion Guiliani really is. That would make sense, given that I firmly believe there is no possibility of a pro-choice Republican winning the presidency. I guess we will see.
For now, I suppose we will let Guiliani go on not liking abortion, yet doing nothing about it. I, on the other hand, will go on not liking Guiliani and doing my darndest to tell everyone about it.
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Well said. It is hard to believe that they trot out the lame, “I’m personally against abortion but wouldn’t restric access to it” lines out in each election. And the reporters let them get away with it! I would love to see the media keep pressing them, as in, “Why are you against abortion?” When they respond that it kills an unborn child, the media should ask, “Then why do you think it should be legal for the unborn to be killed?”
I’m also pro-choice, but against Guiliani. Yes, that’s right, pro-choice.
Right to choose to own a gun
Right to choose to own an SUV
Right to choose to live in an income tax-free state
Right to choose to snowmobile through the East Gate
Right to choose to give birth to a child (no matter the circumstances)
Right to choose adoption
Right to choose someone other than Guiliani….
Keep on keeping on!
Great post. Hey, now
America’sNew York’s Mayor is saying he is pro-choice, but that he’d appoint conservative judges to the bench. How many conservatives do you think will buy into that?“How many conservatives do you think will buy into that?”
If I have my way, absolutely none. Zilch. Zero. Nada. I mean, seriously, once they find out that he is pro-abort, nothing else will matter.
And Scott, I was driving one day and noticed a bumper sticker a couple cars ahead that said “Pro-Choice” really big and then some smaller writing under it. I was driving and stewing and telling myself road rage was bad, even against baby killers, when I found myself directly behind the car. I could now read the smaller writing under the “Pro-Choice,” which was something like what you have written up there.
Haha, needless to say, I was slightly embarrassed for getting upset so quickly.
Tieki Rae,
I enjoy the way you slice through the fluff and seek root cause. I agree Rudy contains a multitude of negatives, the have it both ways position on abortion being the worst, but only one in a log list.
Right on Scott! However, SUV’s are horrific drivers so caution is in order.
Remember the Clinton/Gore PR crock “Abortion should be cheap, legal and rare”? Or was that NARAL? I’m unsure..
I’m encouraged that a younger person is so politically informed and willing to speak up on the issues of the day, as well as tell others about what’s right and good. Be encouraged!
Thanks,
Hank
Some more dirt on your least favorite Republican candidate. Enjoy.
Glad that the bumper sticker had a pro-life spin to it. Also glad that you recognized road rage as being not a great way to abort the pro-abortion message.
I am going to make sure that my (as of yet unpurchased) SUV goes to a good driver’s safety/education class. I heard that one drove into a movie theater the other day. Unfortunately, the driver was the one cited for the incident. Where’s the justice in that??? Of course, a couple years ago, a disgruntled tree fell on a parked SUV once the owners were safely away from it.
Leave it to a Y2K McCainiac to state something like this:
To answer the rhetorical question, those opposed to abortion may prefer it to be legal, under the theory that women will have abortions anyway - and better in a doctor’s office than in the back alley.
It is the job of people who are against abortion to point out the multitude of other options (shall I say “choices?”) available to women - reliable birth control, abstinence, sterilisation, adoption, and, of course, the resources for pregnant women offered by charities such as Catholic Charities.
I do think we can develop a society where abortion is not a “necessity;” where women can take care of their bodies and not get pregnant, and the ones who are pregnant can have the resources to remain so. Ultimately, that society will NEVER happen while abortion is seen as a basic human right - it can only happen when we actively move towards treating it as an abomination and legislating accordingly.
Hi theobromophile,
I believe we’ve already developed a society where abortion is not necessary. The problem is, in the United States alone, it is a billion dollar a year plus industry. It is only about the money, women’s health is a mere smoke screen. Feminists are retarded for buying into it. Well, and for numerous other ideas too. Abortion is just the tip of the tard scale for feminists.
wytammic makes a good point. Why is abortion still necessary? Has anyone done a study on who the women are who are choosing to abort their children? Or the men who get these women pregnant?
I suspect alcohol plays a prominent role, but it would be nice to have data to back it up. It would be awfully nice if we could learn the root cause, and maybe please both camps. Imagine a world where abortion is completely legal, yet never ever performed!
Personally, I’m pro-abortion. I know lots of people who should be retroactively aborted
the Grit