Comments on: The Truth About Margaret Sanger http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/ The Truth Will Set You Free- John 8:32 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 16:10:22 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: theobromophile http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-715 theobromophile Sun, 12 Aug 2007 21:06:00 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-715 <blockquote>How’s that for the “private decision of the woman and her physician” those pro-aborts are always touting?</blockquote> How the heck is that a medical decision? If such is the basis of Roe, could a state forbid the performance of an abortion where the woman does not know the name of her child-killer and have his CV? That would not pose an undue burden on her "right to bear or beget a child," but, of course, would stop the abortion industry in its tracks. Let's stop fighting about parental notification and start going for informed consent. Hee hee hee.

How’s that for the “private decision of the woman and her physician” those pro-aborts are always touting?

How the heck is that a medical decision? If such is the basis of Roe, could a state forbid the performance of an abortion where the woman does not know the name of her child-killer and have his CV? That would not pose an undue burden on her “right to bear or beget a child,” but, of course, would stop the abortion industry in its tracks.

Let’s stop fighting about parental notification and start going for informed consent. Hee hee hee.

]]> By: tieki rae http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-706 tieki rae Sat, 11 Aug 2007 12:41:32 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-706 Bridget - you're exactly right, as usual. Another interesting tidbit I learned, women getting abortions are usually not allowed to know the name of their abortionist. I mean, in the facilities of Tiller the Killer, it's probably obvious, but in the Planned Parenthood facilities and others that specialize in doing 40+ abortions a day, those women aren't told the name of the individual who will be responsible for not only killing their child, but likely causing severe damage to their psychological and/or physical health. How's that for the "private decision of the woman and her physician" those pro-aborts are always touting? ------- Sam -- Yes, it is incredibly frustrating how many tax dollars - at the federal, state, and local levels - are going to fund groups like Planned Parenthood. Even more frustrating, mainstream America really has no idea! Call me an idealist, but I like to think that if mainstream America really knew what Planned Parenthood's agenda is and what PP does to achieve it, they would be far less likely to sit quietly as our tax dollars fund this genocide. ------ Hi John! Don't take it personally at all. :) I've been incredibly busy studying in DC for the past 6 weeks, hence the sporadic posting and complete lack of commenting. In other words, it's not you -- it's me. ;) However, I'm headed back up to upstate NY today and I'm way better at procrastinating when it's just regular school work rather than pro-life research, so I should get back to regular blogging/commenting in the next couple weeks. Bridget - you’re exactly right, as usual. Another interesting tidbit I learned, women getting abortions are usually not allowed to know the name of their abortionist. I mean, in the facilities of Tiller the Killer, it’s probably obvious, but in the Planned Parenthood facilities and others that specialize in doing 40+ abortions a day, those women aren’t told the name of the individual who will be responsible for not only killing their child, but likely causing severe damage to their psychological and/or physical health. How’s that for the “private decision of the woman and her physician” those pro-aborts are always touting?

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Sam — Yes, it is incredibly frustrating how many tax dollars - at the federal, state, and local levels - are going to fund groups like Planned Parenthood. Even more frustrating, mainstream America really has no idea! Call me an idealist, but I like to think that if mainstream America really knew what Planned Parenthood’s agenda is and what PP does to achieve it, they would be far less likely to sit quietly as our tax dollars fund this genocide.

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Hi John! Don’t take it personally at all. :) I’ve been incredibly busy studying in DC for the past 6 weeks, hence the sporadic posting and complete lack of commenting. In other words, it’s not you — it’s me. ;) However, I’m headed back up to upstate NY today and I’m way better at procrastinating when it’s just regular school work rather than pro-life research, so I should get back to regular blogging/commenting in the next couple weeks.

]]> By: John Kaiser http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-702 John Kaiser Fri, 10 Aug 2007 12:01:05 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-702 Hey Tieki, why haven't I seen you around my blog recently? Forgot about me? :-P Hey Tieki, why haven’t I seen you around my blog recently? Forgot about me? :-P

]]> By: Sam Pierce http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-700 Sam Pierce Fri, 10 Aug 2007 03:02:14 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-700 Planned Parenthood, our tax dollars at work. It is sad, sick, and stunning to read Sanger's words and to reflect on how her spirit seems to be alive still today. Her torch has been passed to a new generation that seeks to control the unwashed masses. The twisted extremes some that seek power will go to in order to achieve it is frightening! Planned Parenthood, our tax dollars at work.

It is sad, sick, and stunning to read Sanger’s words and to reflect on how her spirit seems to be alive still today. Her torch has been passed to a new generation that seeks to control the unwashed masses. The twisted extremes some that seek power will go to in order to achieve it is frightening!

]]> By: theobromophile http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-699 theobromophile Thu, 09 Aug 2007 22:19:07 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-699 Isn't it odd how so much of the "choice" rhetoric so quickly turns into forcing women to do certain things? No one in the Chinese government thinks that abortions are really wrong, so they force women to get them for their own good (or the good of existing children, or of society - i.e. the same rationale used to legitimitise abortion today). <blockquote>As for Planned Parenthood, I learned the other day that those “discounted abortions” bring in a third of PPFA’s yearly income. But no, they don’t have a vested interest in the legality of abortion.</blockquote> Sick. Just sick. Is it one of those things where an abortion will cost them $300, but they will charge $500 and "discount" it to $300 for poor women? Who knows.... Abortion, though, is really cheap. Consider that the patient rarely needs anaesthesia; it takes about 10 minutes; and the chances of getting sued over it are negligible. Isn’t it odd how so much of the “choice” rhetoric so quickly turns into forcing women to do certain things? No one in the Chinese government thinks that abortions are really wrong, so they force women to get them for their own good (or the good of existing children, or of society - i.e. the same rationale used to legitimitise abortion today).

As for Planned Parenthood, I learned the other day that those “discounted abortions” bring in a third of PPFA’s yearly income. But no, they don’t have a vested interest in the legality of abortion.

Sick. Just sick. Is it one of those things where an abortion will cost them $300, but they will charge $500 and “discount” it to $300 for poor women? Who knows….

Abortion, though, is really cheap. Consider that the patient rarely needs anaesthesia; it takes about 10 minutes; and the chances of getting sued over it are negligible.

]]> By: tieki rae http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-695 tieki rae Thu, 09 Aug 2007 18:12:59 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-695 Actually Mom, and you know how I hate to defend Sanger and the Planned Parenthood crowd, there's no evidence that Sanger herself was a racist. She was very anti-poor people -- many of whom were black -- and a lot of her friends were definitely racist, but there's really no evidence she thought minorities were inferior because of their skin color. However, her actions obviously justified a lot of racism - breeding out the unfit, etc. Actually Mom, and you know how I hate to defend Sanger and the Planned Parenthood crowd, there’s no evidence that Sanger herself was a racist. She was very anti-poor people — many of whom were black — and a lot of her friends were definitely racist, but there’s really no evidence she thought minorities were inferior because of their skin color.

However, her actions obviously justified a lot of racism - breeding out the unfit, etc.

]]> By: wytammic http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-694 wytammic Thu, 09 Aug 2007 13:24:52 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-694 Well, Sanger fits right in with current Democrats. Racist to the core. Not that they'd admit it, but it's not hard to see that the only thing they care about is the color of a person's skin, not who the actual person inside is. Well, Sanger fits right in with current Democrats. Racist to the core. Not that they’d admit it, but it’s not hard to see that the only thing they care about is the color of a person’s skin, not who the actual person inside is.

]]> By: tieki rae http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-693 tieki rae Thu, 09 Aug 2007 12:05:09 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-693 Oh, but Bridget, it was about women controlling their own bodies! Controlling them through forced sterilization, IUDs implanted without their knowledge or consent... wait, I guess you're right. As for Planned Parenthood, I learned the other day that those "discounted abortions" bring in a third of PPFA's yearly income. But no, they don't have a vested interest in the legality of abortion. Oh, but Bridget, it was about women controlling their own bodies! Controlling them through forced sterilization, IUDs implanted without their knowledge or consent… wait, I guess you’re right.

As for Planned Parenthood, I learned the other day that those “discounted abortions” bring in a third of PPFA’s yearly income. But no, they don’t have a vested interest in the legality of abortion.

]]> By: theobromophile http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-687 theobromophile Wed, 08 Aug 2007 20:58:22 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-687 So it's not about women "controlling their bodies" or "equality" or "reproductive justice." It's all about ensuring that the working class does not overpopulate. Planned Parenthood hasn't done much to go beyond its original roots, has it? I mean, discounted abortions for the poor? The fact that their young clients and black clients are far out of proportion with their representation in the population? So it’s not about women “controlling their bodies” or “equality” or “reproductive justice.” It’s all about ensuring that the working class does not overpopulate.

Planned Parenthood hasn’t done much to go beyond its original roots, has it? I mean, discounted abortions for the poor? The fact that their young clients and black clients are far out of proportion with their representation in the population?

]]> By: John Kaiser http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-684 John Kaiser Wed, 08 Aug 2007 13:54:00 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2007/08/08/the-truth-about-margaret-sanger/#comment-684 Ah, the kindness and love shown by progressives so always so heart warming. Ah, the kindness and love shown by progressives so always so heart warming.

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