Comments on: Lions and Tigers and Drunk Students with Guns, Oh My! http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/ The Truth Will Set You Free- John 8:32 Sat, 22 Nov 2008 15:39:46 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.2 By: Crime Sprees and STDs at Haemet http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1112 Crime Sprees and STDs at Haemet Thu, 03 Apr 2008 22:10:42 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1112 [...] every week or so.  Shortly following the debate about campus violence and gun control (see:  here, here, and here), a “rash of serious criminal incidents” broke out in Collegetown and [...] […] every week or so.  Shortly following the debate about campus violence and gun control (see:  here, here, and here), a “rash of serious criminal incidents” broke out in Collegetown and […]

]]> By: Tammi http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1062 Tammi Sun, 02 Mar 2008 04:40:27 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1062 Wow, I leave town for a couple of days and Haemet comes out with some great posts! I look forward to the day when there are many less <em>gun free</em> zones. Seems like homicidal maniacs are just drawn to them. <em>Tammi's last blog post..<a href='http://conservablogs.com/sunflowerdesert/2008/02/22/political-party-guessing-game-spoilers/' rel="nofollow">Political Party Guessing Game Spoilers</a></em> Wow, I leave town for a couple of days and Haemet comes out with some great posts!

I look forward to the day when there are many less gun free zones. Seems like homicidal maniacs are just drawn to them.

Tammi’s last blog post..Political Party Guessing Game Spoilers

]]> By: Cornell’s Battle Against Guns Continues… at Haemet http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1057 Cornell’s Battle Against Guns Continues… at Haemet Sun, 02 Mar 2008 01:30:59 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1057 [...] Latest news in the battle of students of Cornell University versus essential liberties: [...] […] Latest news in the battle of students of Cornell University versus essential liberties: […]

]]> By: Kevin http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1055 Kevin Sat, 01 Mar 2008 01:25:55 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1055 I don't follow how giving people the liberty to carry a gun is anti-liberty either. It seems like that Franklin quote says exactly the opposite of what the writer wanted it to. <em>Kevin's last blog post..<a href='http://blogiburton.blogspot.com/2008/02/wisdom-tooth-extraction-makes-world.html' rel="nofollow">Wisdom Tooth Extraction Makes the World Good</a></em> I don’t follow how giving people the liberty to carry a gun is anti-liberty either. It seems like that Franklin quote says exactly the opposite of what the writer wanted it to.

Kevin’s last blog post..Wisdom Tooth Extraction Makes the World Good

]]> By: theobromophile http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1054 theobromophile Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:42:41 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1054 <blockquote>But to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, those who would trade their liberty for security deserve neither. </blockquote> PARAPHRASE being the operative word. Mr. Franklin actually said: <blockquote>They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security </blockquote> Well, that's a little different, now isn't it? Last time I checked, the liberals are the ones asking us to give up our essential liberty of gun-carrying to give them their happy rainbow kisses temporary feel-good security. <em>theobromophile's last blog post..<a href='http://helvidiuspachyderm.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/comment-of-the-week-3/' rel="nofollow">Comment of the Week</a></em>

But to paraphrase Benjamin Franklin, those who would trade their liberty for security deserve neither.

PARAPHRASE being the operative word. Mr. Franklin actually said:

They who would give up an essential liberty for temporary security, deserve neither liberty or security

Well, that’s a little different, now isn’t it? Last time I checked, the liberals are the ones asking us to give up our essential liberty of gun-carrying to give them their happy rainbow kisses temporary feel-good security.

theobromophile’s last blog post..Comment of the Week

]]> By: theobromophile http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1053 theobromophile Fri, 29 Feb 2008 22:40:11 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1053 <blockquote>Some may feel comforted by guns; for most, they are instruments of fear. More than anything, a university is an open society — it is a place that values free inquiry, unhindered debate and giving full credence to the kind of opinions that make people cringe.</blockquote> I've always thought it hard to make my opinions known with a bullet through my head, courtesy of the local psychopath. Might be me, though. I'm sure a cranial-ectomy would not alter the average liberal very much, though. <em>theobromophile's last blog post..<a href='http://helvidiuspachyderm.wordpress.com/2008/02/29/comment-of-the-week-3/' rel="nofollow">Comment of the Week</a></em>

Some may feel comforted by guns; for most, they are instruments of fear. More than anything, a university is an open society — it is a place that values free inquiry, unhindered debate and giving full credence to the kind of opinions that make people cringe.

I’ve always thought it hard to make my opinions known with a bullet through my head, courtesy of the local psychopath.

Might be me, though. I’m sure a cranial-ectomy would not alter the average liberal very much, though.

theobromophile’s last blog post..Comment of the Week

]]> By: matthew http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1052 matthew Fri, 29 Feb 2008 19:00:08 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1052 I find it oddly ironic, the following juxtaposition you've so ably highlighted: <blockquote>The Cornell Daily Sun believes in a world filled with sunshine and rainbows</blockquote> They do indeed, but with this distinction: They believe bad guys will see reason and goodness and their badness will quell. And with the same mind they believe you and I and all good people are not to be trusted to act with reason and goodness when entrusted with powerful tools. I find it oddly ironic, the following juxtaposition you’ve so ably highlighted:

The Cornell Daily Sun believes in a world filled with sunshine and rainbows

They do indeed, but with this distinction:

They believe bad guys will see reason and goodness and their badness will quell.

And with the same mind they believe you and I and all good people are not to be trusted to act with reason and goodness when entrusted with powerful tools.

]]> By: Sam Pierce http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1051 Sam Pierce Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:56:56 +0000 http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/02/28/lions-and-tigers-and-drunk-students-with-guns-oh-my/#comment-1051 I wonder what "liberty" they would be trading "for security?" It seems that the editorial writer is the one that is way off target. He or she would deprive law abiding students the liberty of carrying a gun if they chose to do so and would deprive them of the security of knowing that a potential shooter might reconsider... or at least be dealt with more swiftly than if his victims were guaranteed to be unarmed. <em>Sam Pierce's last blog post..<a href='http://conservablogs.com/conservativecommonman/2008/02/24/a-sad-reminder-of-abortions-potential-toll/' rel="nofollow">A sad reminder of abortion’s potential toll</a></em> I wonder what “liberty” they would be trading “for security?” It seems that the editorial writer is the one that is way off target. He or she would deprive law abiding students the liberty of carrying a gun if they chose to do so and would deprive them of the security of knowing that a potential shooter might reconsider… or at least be dealt with more swiftly than if his victims were guaranteed to be unarmed.

Sam Pierce’s last blog post..A sad reminder of abortion’s potential toll

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