Well, if you are interested, I blogged about my thoughts on Schlafly ar my blog rather than clutter yours anymore.

Women get to have birth control and don’t have to listen to her tell them it’s their lack of virtue that gets them sexually harrassed at work, and I’m sure that someone will name a lovely creation museum after her. Everybody wins.

I was wondering if I could ask a favor. Could you provide a link if you are going to quote from my blog?

Probably. I moved to the South where men seem to like women.

In another generation gap, I had to look up “Kinder Kuche Kirche.” I know that “Kinder” means “child,” in part because my paediatrician was very aptly named Dr. Kinder.

I think that Mrs. Schlafly has five children, but, IIRC, she did the housewife thing before she did the political thing.

outrage alone is not a sufficient reason to cancel a speaker, and it will be good for feminists on campus to hear what Schlafly says. Maybe they will re-focus away from worrying if it is spelled “womyn” or “woman”, and be reminded what their mission was.

True story.

While were at it, when is Liberty University going to show some courage in the face of outrage and invite Dawkins to speak about Biology? Heh. Now, talk about “knee-jerk” reactions.

You moved to a different “south” that I did, then. There were plenty of fine people, but WAAAY more dirty old men.

I suspect this might have something to do with our generation gap.

Schlaffly had many fine personal accomplishments, but she made her nut publicly singing the “Kinder Kuche Kirche” song for all women except herself. While I’d never call myself a feminist, I certainly wouldn’t call her one either.

Much as those chauvanists who want easy sexual access to women hide behind the flags of the modern liberal movement, men who pat women on the behinds are hiding behind the conservative movement. Every single conservative man I know considers such actions to be revolting and would not hesitate to criticise the men who engage in those actions - and would not let them hide behind the banner of “those feminists have no sense of humour.”

Again, Mrs. Schlafly was the original Rosie the Riveter; she tested out machine guns to put herself through college during WWII. I’m not sure how much more “feminist” or “unladylike” you want them, but I think that is sufficient data to undermine any stereotypes you may have acquired of women who consider themselves ladies.

I’ll leave you with this. When I first moved to the South, I thought much like you did. I was quickly disabused of that notion when I went shopping for a small chest of drawers. As I walked out of the store, carrying my newly-acquired furniture, a middle-aged man asked if he could help me. No, no, I’m quite capable. The woman next to him told me that, Ma’am, you must let Larry help; he won’t take no for an answer. Fine, fine; I handed over my purchase to Larry. On the way out to the parking lot, while I felt entirely superfluous, he said, “My ma is beyond eighty, can’t see, can’t hear, but if she ever knew that I let a lady carry something like this and didn’t offer to help, why, she would have me over her knee and whelp me.”

There is a fundamental difference between ingrained respect for women and ingrained chauvanism. They both take many forms, on both sides of the political aisle. Personally, I’m thoroughly tired of the men who tell me that it’s my right as a modern women to have sex with them, without committment, and abort a child if I happen to get pregnant. I’ll take the men who offer to carry my furniture, thanks.

“Men should stop treating feminists like ladies, and instead treat them like the men they say they want to be.”

Phyllis Schlafly

Men that treat me like “one of the guys” are a lot easier company to take than men who think they “know what a woman really wants”.

Like those condescending old men who call you “honey” or “Darlin” and pat you on the butt…and insist that they are just being “complimentary” Phyllis can have ‘em!

‘course, most of ‘em are probably dead of old age by now…

Sam,

Ditto to that. I considered adding some snark about abortion - how, obviously, Mrs. Schlafly did not need to abort her unborn child to achieve her prominence and education - but decided against it. You are absolutely right, though; the fact that she has moral values distinguishes her from those who believe that a lack of moral values is empowering to women. (Sadly, though, the womyn’s studies’ set are doing the work of the patriarchy for them: nothing like ensuring that women can’t get married, have to abort to get an education, and can’t find stable, kind, moral men to ensure that they won’t live their lives to the fullest and achieve their goals.)

ROFL to the last line.

McCain should fight global warming by shutting up and capping his own CO2 emissions.