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	<title>Comments on: Let&#8217;s Also Try Giving Water To Drowning Birds!</title>
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		<title>By: The &#8220;teen pregnancy pact&#8221; &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1262</link>
		<dc:creator>The &#8220;teen pregnancy pact&#8221; &#171; 4Simpsons Blog - Eternity Matters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 25 Jun 2008 19:52:24 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1262</guid>
		<description>[...] pro-life blogger extraordinaire Roxanne De Luca noted: This blogger’s take: giving contraception to people who want to get pregnant is like [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] pro-life blogger extraordinaire Roxanne De Luca noted: This blogger’s take: giving contraception to people who want to get pregnant is like [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Better sex education should be a family value - The Traveling Gnome - Claire St. Amant</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1260</link>
		<dc:creator>Better sex education should be a family value - The Traveling Gnome - Claire St. Amant</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 18:56:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1260</guid>
		<description>[...] with the recent national increase in teen pregnancy. Enter the conservatives, like the author of this blog, who equates making birth control available to &#8220;giving drowning birds water.&#8221; While the [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[&#8230;] with the recent national increase in teen pregnancy. Enter the conservatives, like the author of this blog, who equates making birth control available to &ldquo;giving drowning birds water.&rdquo; While the [&#8230;]</p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1259</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 03:37:30 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1259</guid>
		<description>Sam,

Please point out to me the words that say having children is terrible?

Since I've done it myslef a couple of times, I hardly think that it's terrible.

Just that some people overly romanticize it and fill little girls heads with stupid and unrealistic ideas of what it's like...like for instance giving them the impression that babies are a guarantee of feeling a non-stop flow of unconditional love.

You know, some days they do nothing but scream at you for no reason you can figure out, and they don't stop until they vomit on you and fall asleep.

It's not terrible...but it isn't all ice-cream and puppies either.  :-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sam,</p>
<p>Please point out to me the words that say having children is terrible?</p>
<p>Since I&#8217;ve done it myslef a couple of times, I hardly think that it&#8217;s terrible.</p>
<p>Just that some people overly romanticize it and fill little girls heads with stupid and unrealistic ideas of what it&#8217;s like&#8230;like for instance giving them the impression that babies are a guarantee of feeling a non-stop flow of unconditional love.</p>
<p>You know, some days they do nothing but scream at you for no reason you can figure out, and they don&#8217;t stop until they vomit on you and fall asleep.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not terrible&#8230;but it isn&#8217;t all ice-cream and puppies either.  <img src='http://conservablogs.com/haemet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
<em>Teresa&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://www.anomalousdata.com/Crazy+Rambling+NutBag+Book+Award+Vote+Now.aspx'>Crazy, Rambling, Nut-Bag book award.  Vote Now!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Pierce</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1257</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 00:17:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1257</guid>
		<description>Thank you.

&lt;em&gt;Sam Pierce's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://conservablogs.com/conservativecommonman/2008/06/22/wapo-laments-racism-then-gleefully-banks-on-it/' rel="nofollow"&gt;WaPo Laments Racism… Then Gleefully Banks On It!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you.</p>
<p><em>Sam Pierce&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://conservablogs.com/conservativecommonman/2008/06/22/wapo-laments-racism-then-gleefully-banks-on-it/'>WaPo Laments Racism… Then Gleefully Banks On It!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1256</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Jun 2008 17:54:47 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1256</guid>
		<description>Teresa,

Absent evidence that these girls were coerced or pushed into becoming mothers, I think we can take this story at face value.  The young women said they felt unloved - not that they weren't fulfilling a godly function.  I also find it a bit strange to infer that the Church pushed them into being unwed mothers, given that the Church is so stridently opposed to premarital sex.  I've met my share of Catholic women, but none who wanted to fulfill her duty as a mother before getting married.

Sam - congratulations. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Teresa,</p>
<p>Absent evidence that these girls were coerced or pushed into becoming mothers, I think we can take this story at face value.  The young women said they felt unloved - not that they weren&#8217;t fulfilling a godly function.  I also find it a bit strange to infer that the Church pushed them into being unwed mothers, given that the Church is so stridently opposed to premarital sex.  I&#8217;ve met my share of Catholic women, but none who wanted to fulfill her duty as a mother before getting married.</p>
<p>Sam - congratulations. <img src='http://conservablogs.com/haemet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Sam Pierce</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1254</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Pierce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 21:55:26 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1254</guid>
		<description>Thanks for setting things straight Teresa, I'll let my wife know what a terrible thing she is doing (carrying our sixth child.)

&lt;em&gt;Sam Pierce's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://conservablogs.com/conservativecommonman/2008/06/22/wapo-laments-racism-then-gleefully-banks-on-it/' rel="nofollow"&gt;WaPo Laments Racism… Then Gleefully Banks On It!&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for setting things straight Teresa, I&#8217;ll let my wife know what a terrible thing she is doing (carrying our sixth child.)</p>
<p><em>Sam Pierce&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://conservablogs.com/conservativecommonman/2008/06/22/wapo-laments-racism-then-gleefully-banks-on-it/'>WaPo Laments Racism… Then Gleefully Banks On It!</a></em></p>
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		<title>By: Teresa</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1253</link>
		<dc:creator>Teresa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Jun 2008 03:31:02 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1253</guid>
		<description>"Catholicism is certainly beside the point: is anyone really claiming that a bunch of Jews and Methodists would never have this problem?"

Depends on the church and the priest.  There are more than a few out there who get a little heavy-handed, and can give the impression that the ultimate function of a woman is to bear children and be a mother...infusing the whole subject with a romance and mysticism that reality is hard-pressed to compete with.

Perhaps these young girls have absorbed the promises of the motherhood at the end of the abstinance without being convinced to wait until adulthood for such a blessed experience.

After all, the holy mother was a teenager...  :-)

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Catholicism is certainly beside the point: is anyone really claiming that a bunch of Jews and Methodists would never have this problem?&#8221;</p>
<p>Depends on the church and the priest.  There are more than a few out there who get a little heavy-handed, and can give the impression that the ultimate function of a woman is to bear children and be a mother&#8230;infusing the whole subject with a romance and mysticism that reality is hard-pressed to compete with.</p>
<p>Perhaps these young girls have absorbed the promises of the motherhood at the end of the abstinance without being convinced to wait until adulthood for such a blessed experience.</p>
<p>After all, the holy mother was a teenager&#8230;  <img src='http://conservablogs.com/haemet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
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		<title>By: Roxeanne de Luca</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1252</link>
		<dc:creator>Roxeanne de Luca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 16:47:27 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1252</guid>
		<description>Thank you, Neil. :)

Agree - we ought to stop giving them money, either way.  I'm not quite sure why the federal government feels the need to tax us and redistribute the money for such projects (it seems as if concerned citizens can donate, in proportion to their numbers and their concern) anyway....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thank you, Neil. <img src='http://conservablogs.com/haemet/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Agree - we ought to stop giving them money, either way.  I&#8217;m not quite sure why the federal government feels the need to tax us and redistribute the money for such projects (it seems as if concerned citizens can donate, in proportion to their numbers and their concern) anyway&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: Neil</title>
		<link>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1251</link>
		<dc:creator>Neil</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 21 Jun 2008 04:45:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://conservablogs.com/haemet/2008/06/20/lets-also-try-giving-water-to-drowning-birds/#comment-1251</guid>
		<description>"This blogger’s take: giving contraception to people who want to get pregnant is like giving a fire extinguisher to an arsonist."

Great illustration!  I'm always amazed that the Planned Parenthood types blame everything on abstinence.  They seem to have cashed hundreds of millions of $$ of checks from the government.  Have they no accountability for what happens?  If so, then we should stop giving them money (actually, we should stop giving them money either way).

&lt;em&gt;Neil's last blog post..&lt;a href='http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/the-audacity-of-being-an-abortion-survivor/' rel="nofollow"&gt;The audacity of being an abortion survivor&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;This blogger’s take: giving contraception to people who want to get pregnant is like giving a fire extinguisher to an arsonist.&#8221;</p>
<p>Great illustration!  I&#8217;m always amazed that the Planned Parenthood types blame everything on abstinence.  They seem to have cashed hundreds of millions of $$ of checks from the government.  Have they no accountability for what happens?  If so, then we should stop giving them money (actually, we should stop giving them money either way).</p>
<p><em>Neil&#8217;s last blog post..<a href='http://4simpsons.wordpress.com/2008/06/20/the-audacity-of-being-an-abortion-survivor/'>The audacity of being an abortion survivor</a></em></p>
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