As the Greenspan Turns

Jeff Greenspan, Ron Paul’s out-of-state political operative who helped engineer last weekend’s fiasco at the Nevada Republican Party convention in Reno is tying himself in knots trying to spin his way out responsibility for the embarrassment he helped engineer.

The story line that the Ron Paul people desperately want to believe - as it fuels the already abundant level of paranoia which flows uncontrolled through their ranks - is that the state party had been conspiring behind closed doors to block any Ron Paul supporters from going to the GOP national convention in Minnesota later this summer. As you read much of their email traffic, you get a sense that they believe the Nevada GOP ranks right up there with the Council on Foreign Relations and the “empire” in the Star Wars movies.

What many of them have been crushed to discover since Saturday, however, is that Greenspan had been working hand-in-glove with the party all along. Contrary to the fashionable notion that the party was doing everything in its power to disenfranchise the Ron Paulites, the party had been actively and openly working with Greenspan. This is something Greenspan has reluctantly finally had to admit over the last couple of days. It seems he’s been a bit uncomfortable with the masses of paranoid Ron Paul supporters discovering he’s been sleeping with the enemy.

Another part of the problem which arose on Saturday was, frankly, the fact that so many of the Ron Paul delegates to the convention have never been involved in party activities like this before. They are “newbies.” And while the Nevada GOP in general, but Chairwoman Sue Lowden in particular, welcomed the passion and energy of these new grassroots activists, many simply didn’t know how the game was played. Many apparently and erroneously believed the party had established a Nominations Committee to screen prospective delegates to the national convention this year for the first time in history for the sole purpose of keeping out Ron Paul delegates.

For the record, a Nominations Committee is standard operating procedure for a lot of political organizations and conventions, as well as many non-political organizations. I can’t remember a time when the Nevada Republican Party convention didn’t have a Nominating Committee, whose job it is to screen potential national delegates and make recommendations to the full convention. The convention, however, has ALWAYS had the power to ignore the Nominations Committee’s recommendations. So none of this is anything new.

In any event, applications to convention attendees who wanted to be considered as possible delegates to the national convention were sent out in advance of the Nevada convention to help the Nominations Committee narrow down its list of recommendations. I’ve heard there are some questions about whether or not the delegates from Carson City received those applications, but my understanding is that everyone else got one. And it’s also my understanding that 25 Ron Paul supporters submitted applications.

Which brings us to how to divvy up the 31 national delegate slots among some 1,500 Nevada Republican convention attendees who supported a wide variety of presidential candidates at the presidential caucus last January 19th.

It appears the Nominations Committee, or maybe it was the party leadership, came to the conclusion that the fair thing to do would be to allot slots based on the percentage of the vote each presidential candidate received at the caucus. Mitt Romney received over 50 percent of the vote, so his supporters would be allotted about half of the delegates. Ron Paul came in second with less than 14 percent of the vote, so his supporters would get four slots. And so on.

Now this is where the proverbial rubber meets the road. I’ve been told that the party gave Jeff Greenspan the list of 25 names of Ron Paul supporters who sent in applications to be considered as delegates to the national convention. And I’m told that Greenspan’s the one who hand-picked the four Ron Paul supporters who would appear on the official slate card of delegates which would be presented to the convention by the Nominations Committee.

Are you following this so far, Paul People?

The Nominations Committee is a regular and normal function of the state convention. And contrary to the paranoid fear that the committee met in some secret cave out near Yucca Mountain to come up with a list of recommended national convention delegates which didn’t include anyone from the Ron Paul camp, your “leader” worked hand-in-glove with this committee and the party. He apparently agreed to the fair allotment of four delegates based on the caucus results and hand-picked the four individuals who would represent Ron Paul at the national convention in Minnesota. If there was any kind of “conspiracy” going on…your guy was part of it!

So if Greenspan was part of this entire process and agreed with it, where and how exactly did the wheels come off the apple cart?

According to Greenspan - and these are his actual, exact words, so I’m not making this up or surmising here - he somehow came to believe on Saturday morning “that the nominations committee, or certain parties on it, had no intention on holding up their end of the bargain.” Because of this, Greenspan claims, he unleashed what he describes as his “contingency plan” to scrap the deal he made with the party and instead back efforts to open the convention to nominations from the floor, thereby throwing the entire convention into chaos.

Let’s be clear here: Greenspan is accusing the nominations committee, or unnamed “certain parties” on the nominations committee, of conspiring at the last minute to strip the names of the four Ron Paul delegates that Greenspan hand-picked from the official slate of candidates the Nominations Committee was going to submit to the convention. That’s a pretty serious accusation.

Notice, however, that Greenspan offers no reason why the party, after negotiating with him (as well as the McCain folks) directly for months in a genuine effort to include the Ron Paul supporters in the process, would suddenly change its mind.

Notice also that Greenspan, who was welcomed into the state party process with open arms by State GOP Chairwoman Sue Lowden, never bothered to take his concerns on Saturday morning, if they were genuine, to Chairwoman Lowden. Instead he simply dropped the bomb and put his “contingency plan” into play.

Notice also that Greenspan gives no evidence to back up his claim that “certain parties” on the nominations committee had no intention of holding up their end of the bargain. In fact, the guy is actually now trying to get ME to obtain a copy of the Nominations Committee ballot which apparently he believes will “prove” that the committee was preparing to back out of the deal it had with him.

Um, question. If Greenspan is asking ME to produce a copy of that slate card, that means he doesn’t have it and never saw it himself. Well, um, if he doesn’t have a copy and never saw it, then what evidence does he have justifying his accusation that the Nominations Committee wasn’t holding up its end of the bargain? Hmmmm?

Notice also that Greenspan doesn’t name the “certain parties” on the Nominations Committee who he accuses of welching on the deal. So allow me.

From what I understand, the three top guys running the Nominations Committee were Doug Mathews, Howard Hirsch and Bruce Woodbury. And while the Ron Paul folks who are brand spanking new to Republican Party activities in this state might not know these gentlemen, those of us who have been around the track a few times sure do.

Mathews has been a rock-solid grassroots activist for as long as I can remember. His integrity has never been questioned by anyone I’ve ever talked to. Hirsch is a rock-solid limited government conservative who presently serves as Chairman of the Lyon County Republican Party. Again, of those who know Howard I don’t know of a soul who has ever questioned his integrity.

And Bruce Woodbury is and has been a Clark County commissioner since, I think, Nevada obtained statehood. While multiple other members of the Clark County commission have been marched off to jail for one criminal violation after another in recent years, Woodbury’s integrity has never been in doubt. And he’s one of the few elected Republicans you can ALWAYS count on to help the party and its candidates at crunch time.

If out-of-state political operative Jeff Greenspan is going to make a serious charge which brings into question the honesty and integrity of these three fine NEVADA Republicans, he better produce some proof. The burden is on Greenspan to tell everyone why he broke the deal since HE’S the one making the accusation that highly respected, longtime NEVADA Republican Party activists weren’t prepared to hold up their end of the bargain.

The bottom line is that it’s highly doubtful that Mathews, Hirsch and Woodbury conspired to strike all the Ron Paul names from the Nominations Committee slate. More likely Greenspan either got greedy once the convention started and thought he had the numbers to hijack it and get more than four slots in the national convention delegation after all. Or he was afraid of being discovered as a “Vichy” collaborator with the evil state party empire and decided to try to cover his posterior by leading the effort to throw the convention into chaos.

Truthfully, I don’t think anyone knows with absolute certainty what exactly went down on Saturday to cause Greenspan to go cuckoo for Cocoa Puffs. Most of the information coming out of the Reno convention is of a he said/she said nature. All I know is that I’ll take the word of longtime NEVADA Republicans Sue Lowden, Bob Beers, Doug Mathews, Howard Hirsch and Bruce Woodbury - who have paid their dues and been in the Nevada GOP trenches for many, many years - over the forked-tongue word of out-of-stater Jeff Greenspan any day of the week, and twice on Sunday.

One anonymous Ron Paul blog poster wrote yesterday asking why I seem so angry over all this. Well, I’ll tell you why. I know Sue Lowden. I know Bob Beers. I know Doug Mathews. I know Howard Hirsch. And I know Bruce Woodbury. They are friends of mine. I’ve worked with them for many years. They are good people. They are Republican “doers,” not “talkers.” And they don’t deserve the kind of scorn and hate that’s coming from the fringe elements of the Ron Paul campaign.

Yes, this character assassination and unsupported accusations against them makes me angry. Calling Sen. Beers a “thug” and Chairwoman Lowden a “criminal.” No, I’m not going to sit back and let these know-nothing, Johnny-come-lately’s drag these fine folks’ reputations through the mud unchallenged.

Greenspan, if you have proof that any of these people reneged on their deal with you, put up…or shut up.

Now, to end this edition of Nevada News & Views on a happy note, for those of you who may have never met Jeff Greenspan and don’t know what he looks like, this is NOT him (I think).

And no, this photo used by the Ron Paul folks in endorsing Heidi Smith for Republican National Committeewoman (hmmm, was there a quid pro quo there?) was not taken in this century.

9 Responses to “As the Greenspan Turns”

  1. Well thank you, Chuck, for that vote of confidence. Everything happened pretty much the way you said it did, so let me add my perspective.

    Other members of the committee besides me, Doug, and Bruce included Patti Chipman of Pahrump (full disclosure: Mrs. Paul Willis) and Paul Jackson of Reno (full disclosure: McCain campaign Nevada director).

    My role was that of chief scribe and record keeper. I drafted the application form, set up the e-mail address for electronic responses, got permission from the Carson City Republicans to allow us to have the mail delivered there (and thereby save about $75 cost of a post office box), picked up the mail every day on my lunch hour, scanned all the applications to save on a CD-ROM, answered numerous e-mail inquiries, and prepared a daily summary of applications including roster and breakdowns by geography and sex.

    I was not present at the Thursday meeting before the convention because I have a full time job with insufficient flexibility to do so. However, I was on hand on Friday when the final decisions were made to recommend a slate.

    I am very proud of the work the committee did, and am humbly honored to be chosen to work with my colleagues, all of whom are the best people in the Nevada GOP. We came up with a slate that truly reflected the composition of the Nevada Republican party electorate. I am sorry that those misguided delegates who voted to scuttle our report (not all Ron Paul people, to be fair about it) did not understand the function that we served. Didn’t they realize that their own counties had nominating committees for THEIR conventions?? Didn’t they realize that what they did was the equivalent of having a one-hour filing period for Congress with an election immediately after with no campaign and 200 candidates from which to choose?

    As for the Ron Paul people, the only contact I had was with Brian Kominsky, their Clark County coordinator, in a lengthy and unproductive e-mail exchange (although he was quite reasonable when he finally acceded to my request for a phone discussion earlier this week). I repeatedly pointed out that I didn’t consider Paul’s candidacy illegitimate, even if I was not a supporter myself, but also that it would be a lot more helpful to their cause if they could provide us with a delegate slate to be considered. He bumped this suggestion up to Jeff Greenspan, and I can tell you I have had no contact with Greenspan whatsoever.

    As for last Saturday’s circus at the Peppermill, well you can view it on a number of videos on youtube.com. Just enter tags “Ron” “Paul” “Nevada” “Republican” “Convention”.

    I think the point at which I realized the whole thing was an exercise in futility came when we returned from lunch. Chairman Beers ruled just before we recessed that one hour would be allowed for self-nominations which should be placed in a basket on the podium. My interpretation was that upon return from lunch and devolution into CD caucuses, the only names that would be considered would be those who did that within the one hour time frame, but much to my surprise and chagrin, several individuals took it upon themselves to start a sign-up sheet for that purpose, and well . . . you know the rest.

    We also didn’t get to pick presidential electors, and that seems to be more problematic as the convention is charged by statute to do so.

    At this point (Wednesday 10 PM) it’s anyone’s guess what will happen next. Three things seem clear, however:

    1) There was more than sufficient irregularity to challenge the results from ALL three CDs at the national convention credentials committee.

    2) Party rules preclude re-convening in Las Vegas, as has been suggested in newspaper accounts.

    3) If, as I suspect is likely, we don’t get a quorum for the re-do, we have to figure out another approach.

    Stay tuned.

    Howard Hirsch
    Chairman, Lyon County Republican Central Committee
    Dayton, Nevada

  2. That’s quite curious. Why would so many elected and party officials sign off on the tally sheets given so many irregularities that Mr. Hirsch mentions?

    Care to clarify?

  3. Would testimony with regards to the regularity of the process and counting help?

  4. Last question. If your plan is to overturn the CD elections of delegates, how does that explain this comment from Zac? Someone’s not being straight here. Is it Zac, or Howard or Chuck?

    “Party officials declined to release the results of the two completed counts on Monday, saying they had to be certified by the convention to become official. However, Moyle said, those votes would count, and would not be thrown out and replaced by new elections.”
    http://www.lvrj.com/news/18359154.html

  5. Oh, I think we’ve pretty much established who the person is who hasn’t been straight with everyone on this, JEFF.

  6. You mean that the CD elections will NOT be invalidated like Zac said or that the WILL be invalidated like Howard said.

    Can you straighten that one out? Thanks.

    What would REALLY be interesting is if someone had a copy of the contract to the Peppermill!

  7. Jeff, you seem to be under the mistaken impression that I will have anything to do with you. Think again.

  8. As a delegate to the convention, I was constantly looking for rules that would govern the election of delegates to the National Convention. The rules to the convention were available a week prior to the convention, but notably absent from the rules was the method of selecting the national delegates. The rules did state that the method of selection or election would be decided by the nominations committee but nothing came out of the nominations committee prior to the convention. A more open and above board way to handle the matter would have been to communicate any rules on that to delegates well in advance of the convention. My impression at the convention was that the party officials were saying that no additions to their slate would be allowed. I heard of discussions between the Ron Paul campaign and the party prior to the convention but if any agreement was made, as Mr. Muth claims, both sides kept it confidential.

    There were many people upset with the fact that on Saturday morning it appeared that the party officials and not the convention would determine who was selected as national convention delegates. I am sure that is why the party’s plan was rejected by a vote of about 750 to 450.

    Mr. Muth, I can’t understand why you discuss these things with such extreme venom. Why not turn the volume down a bit. The party leaders alone are responsible for the fiasco. They should have anticipated that the delegate selection process would be highly contested. In fact, they did anticipate that as evidenced by misleading polling in the week prior to the convention. One of those misleading pollls came from state party headquarters. The poll claimed to be about seating but the ruse was transparent. What they were after was whether or not the delegate was a Ron Paul supporter. I don’t t hink that the state party needs to sponsor misleading polls. The other misleading poll was from the John McCain campaign. The questions were different but the intent was the same.

    Ultimately the delay of the convention, with excuses so transparent, will be harmful to lots of people. I urge the party regulars to step back, take a deep breath and let the delegate winners have their rightful due.

  9. Robert, I’ll make you a deal - but unlike Jeff Greenspan, I’ll be happy to honor my end of the bargain. I’ll tone down the venom if you’ll tone down the paranoia and back up your accusations with facts, not “feelings.”

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