I have four problems with *some* of the Ron Paul folks.
One is Jeff Greenspan…which I’ve been detailing on this blog for the past few days, so I won’t belabored the point further here.
The second is Ron Paul supporters who are just plain nasty. On blogs and emails, they unleash some of the most vile and unhinged assaults on folks who often would otherwise be allies. Indeed, a number of conservative blogs - including Red State - have felt compelled to ban Ron Paul supporters from even posting on their websites.
This includes the emails and blogs this week on which some Ron Paul supporters called longtime Nevada GOP leader and conservative/libertarian Nevada state Senator Bob Beers a “thug” and a “criminal” for his role in chairing the convention last weekend.
And then there was this email from Nevada GOP convention delegate Al Balloqui to the Clark County Republican Party chairman this week:
“My Dear Fellow Republican Bernie Zadrowski: How long is your nose? My fellow Republican you are a LIAR! I look forward to seeing you at the next convention to see how long your nose has grown!”
Liar, liar, pants on fire? Pinocchio-nose? It’s bad enough that this supposed adult lowered the political discourse in the party to such childish schoolyard taunts, but now I’m being told Balloqui is actually Pahrump’s director of economic development! How proud Pahrumpians must be right about now.
Three, are the Ron Paul supporters whose grip on reality is so tenuous that they actually still believe Ron Paul is going to emerge from the Republican National Convention in Minnesota and go on to win the White House in November.
No, I’m serious. There are actually some of those people out there. One lives right here in Nevada and was a delegate at last weekend’s convention. Here’s what Pat Kerby wrote just yesterday in an email:
“Visualize this if you will. After gaining momentum in each State convention, the Ron Paul movement becomes irresistible, and The Republican Party Nominates Ron Paul during the convention in September. This leaves a little over a month before the general elections. In that time there are three, or possible four debates with whatever socialist becomes the Democratic nominee. Ron Paul completely devastates them with his message of peace, prosperity, and freedom. Ron Paul is elected in a landslide victory, returning honor and dignity to the office of President, and victory to the now rejuvenated Republican party. Congress recognizes the shift, and starts working diligently to get us back onto a constitutional course.”
Somebody’s playing with the crack pipe again.
Seriously, though, how can anyone take seriously someone so out of touch with reality? I can’t.
Fourth and finally, the paranoids.
The problem with paranoia is that it clouds your judgment and ability to reason objectively. You see boogey-men behind every tree, and you see enemies where allies otherwise are. This definitely was a problem for an awful lot of Ron Paul delegates at last weekend’s Republican Party convention in Reno. And it continues to be a problem for some who think I, personally, am anti-Ron Paul. So let me try one last time to make myself - as a former GOP president was wont to say - perfectly clear.
I am a Ron Paul supporter. I am not a registered Republican. But if I was and I had attended the January 19th caucus I would have voted for him. In fact, I’ve been a vocal and public supporter of Dr. Paul since he was re-elected to Congress in 1995. I have regularly featured his writings and activities in my own newsletters and columns for the last dozen years.
Plus, I donated to his presidential campaign the minute he made his formal announcement over a year ago (something I’ve never done for any other presidential candidate, including Reagan), as well as for his first big “money bomb” last fall.
Capice?
In addition, I wouldn’t have cared less if Ron Paul delegates had shown up in force at the GOP convention and captured each and every one of the 31 delegate slots to the Republican National Convention next September in Minneapolis/St. Paul. It won’t change the fact that Sen. McCain is going to be the nominee. But if it makes y’all feel better to organize and win all those seats on the convention floor so you can wear silly hats and act goofy…go for it.
No, my only real problem regarding this convention business is and has been with Jeff Greenspan. Period.
I’ve given Greenspan every opportunity to confirm whether or not he made a deal on a unity slate of candidates to attend the national convention and, if so, tell us what the deal was and who he made it with. The Arizona Agitator’s response has been to flip-flop around like a mackerel on a sun deck.
In any event, the convention fell into chaos because of his actions and decisions. Maybe it was handled poorly at the end by party officials; maybe not. Maybe Republican leaders WERE scared that the Ron Paul delegates would win all of the slots; but maybe they truly were beyond their time deadline and knew they couldn’t finish the business at hand. I don’t know. Frankly, I don’t care. There are far more important things for us to be worrying about. What’s done is done.
I also have no idea how the party intends to settle this matter, although Sen. Beers mentioned talk of completing the delegate elections via a mail-in ballot. We’ll see.
But however the unfinished elections are conducted, if the Ron Paul delegates come together again and win all 31 seats to the Republican National Convention, I think that’s great. If the party regulars and McCain forces get their hats handed to them by the far-better organized Ron Paul brigades, vunderbar. Viva la Revolucion!
You see, I’m not angry with the vast majority of Ron Paul delegates. You fought hard, stayed organized and played by the rules. But I can’t say that of Jeff Greenspan. You all love the guy and are loyal to him…and that’s fine. But I believe the Arizona Agitator deceived and double-crossed party officials who trusted and welcomed him - and he’s done nothing to convince me otherwise. If he does some day, I’ll buy him a beer.
Let me close with this suggestion.
If you folks want to change the direction of the Republican Party - and I hope you do - you can either do it by force or persuasion. You’re trying to do it by force right now (VERY un-libertarian), even though the party leaders we’re talking about here are libertarian-leaning - just like you, me and Ron Paul. That makes no sense.
You win by addition, not subtraction. And those grassroots activists hoping to gain control over the direction of the party should consider heeding the wisdom of the late great Chinese general, Sun Tzu:
“To fight and conquer in all your battles is not supreme excellence; supreme excellence consists in breaking the enemy’s resistance without fighting.”
I would also urge you to divert all of the wasted time, effort and energy you’re expending on getting people elected to this silly national convention and shift it to getting like-minded libertarian-conservatives elected to school boards, city councils and county commissions. THERE’S where your efforts and organizational abilities can REALLY make a difference.
I believe it’s been estimated that 600 Ron Paul delegates attended the Reno convention. My question is this: How many of you are planning to file to run for a real elected office on Monday?
I know you’re all focusing on gaining control of the Nevada GOP delegation to the national convention. But when that’s over, what will you have accomplished? Doodley-squat. It won’t mean a thing.
Instead, might I suggest you all consider filing to run for legislative seats, school board seats, board of education seats, etc. And that includes challenging liberal and “moderate” Republican incumbents in primaries!
Then set aside a two-day weekend in early June and bring in a couple of professional campaign trainers to teach you the nuts and bolts of organizing and running a winning grassroots campaign. It’s really not that difficult (or expensive) if you know what you’re doing. Start winning some “down ballot” seats and begin the hard work of moving up to bigger and more influential seats. After all…
You can’t change public policy is you don’t change public officials.
If you want help doing THIS, I’m available. But if all you want to do is fart around with Roberts Rules of Order and meaningless “resolutions” at a state convention…well, I personally think you’re wasting your time.
Then again, it’s your time. So have at it. As for me, I’n off to watch my girls’ softball game. Adios.
Posted on May 3rd, 2008 by Chuck Muth
Filed under: Nevada

Excuses excuses. They tried multiple excuses/reasons for what happened. Right down to blaming the hotel…
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WE INTERRUPT THIS RANT for a lesson in free speech.
“Badmedia,” Chuck Muth here. Yes, I have censored your blog post for a couple of reasons.
1.) While you have a right to free speech in this country, you do not have the right to use MY soapbox to exercise your right.
2.) Your opinion in this matter, in my opinion, was…well, ridiculous. Therefore I have opted not to publish it. We have standards here.
3.) While you certainly have the right to remain anonymous rather than be man enough to disclose your true identity when venturing your opinions - the way Mr. Greenspan and I do - I have no obligation to cater to your cowardice. Therefore…see #1 above.
We now return you to our regular programming…
This whole blog is a whirlwind of fallacies, disinformation, and half truths. I truly enjoy seeing Operation GOP Chaos play out.
Well, you seem to have your head on somewhat straight, but definitely have contempt for Ron Paul supporters and it clouds your better judgment. We for the most part pissed off as we have been shit on for a long time by all aspects of the establishment.
One thing everyone needs to realize, is that we are not going away. Most of us are committed to a life long fight. We will multiply as things get worse, and people start to wake up. We all have been robbed and we are exposing who are the thieves.
We are not going away. We are and will continue to change this country back into a democratic republic that follows the constitution and safeguards personal liberties. We will control the republican party very soon, incognito.
Live free or die.
Surely Mr. Muth you do not believe that the GOP plays by the rules or the Dems for that matter. If you do, then it seems your the one that has been hitting the pipe a little to hard and still believe in the tooth fairy. Sometimes you have to get alittle nasty be heard. Take our top three presidential canidates for example. So please go back to watching your girls play softball, and if you want to blog? Try to avoid giving opinions on how to maneuver through the party system. Its not very easy . And personally I do not think this country has the time left to start from the bottom up. I’m not a doom and gloom type of person, but history has shown that all Empires fall. And ours will be no different. When, and to what extent is the uncertainty. So please forgive us Paultards if we get alittle out of hand, its the fight or flight reaction. And by the way ! There is a boogey man out there. Its called the goverment. LOL! Enjoy the game. Oh and just a foot note: I have to go back for my second tour in Iraq in a couple of weeks. You wanna good dose of reality? If you can spare sometime between softball and bloging, Come on and patrol the streets of Mosul with us. Oh and just one more thing. Not my real name on top. See, they don’t like us to express our political views. Bad for buisness.
If you looneytunes really want to change a party then you should belong to the right one.
You are NOT Republicans. Your idiot leader is NOT a Republican. So, quit trying to screw up the Republican Party and go where you belong.
And take Chuck Muth with you.
Actually, the neo-conservative movement that has co-opted the Republican Party came from the Democratic party. Irving Kristol and Norman Podhoretz, the intellectual godfathers of the current Republican administration, started as Trotskyites, then democrats, and only migrated to the Republican party a few decades ago. They haven’t changed their ideology, but they were able to convince many Republicans that growing the welfare state and nation-building warfare were core Republican principles. Of course, they never were.
We Ron Paul types are merely trying to bring the party back to what it used to be. So, what party is it you should be long to? I can see the Giuliani supporters and McCain supporters melding seamlessly into the Democratic Party. They could rename it the McCain-Giuliani-Lieberman wing of the party. I’d love the contest of ideas between your party and the Republican one.
B.K.
Chuck you are right. Years ago I heard the phase “All Politics are Local” I believe a SciFi writer was the author arounn 1950 or so, but I’m not sure. I would also love to see some true candidiates run for the local school board and council elections. I would love to see reasonable Ron Paul people who have a clue as to reality be those people. I am also afraifd that the extremests of that group will take control and ruin a good idea as they seems to have done recently.
I’m sorry for the abuse you’re taking. Yes, some RP supporters are, unfortunately, crazy paranoids. (Of course, so are every candidate’s). A huge number, though, are just regular people who’ve taken so many hits they’re punch drunk. That’s one fact you should know about the rEVOLution; we’re all a bit punch drunk.
The other thing you should know is that Paul’s supporters are in no way controllable by the campaign. They’ll listen to Ron Paul, but no one else; certainly not Jeff Greenspan. My suspicion is that Greenspan was simply unable to convince them to follow the deal, and ended up having to repudiate it (and having ’suspicions’ of the other side breaking it in order to rationalize his behavior).
The same thing happened in Jackson County, MO, last month; the Paul campaign made a deal, and the Paul delegates rejected it. Have a google, or check out my article, “Pure Bunk”: http://www.nolanchart.com/article3478.html