Facts are our friends
October 9th, 2007 at 10:49 am . by nukeAfter a twelve year old boy read the democrat response to President Bush’s weekend radio address, some fact fact-checking by FReeper ICWHATUDO started a firestorm in DC.
Ya’ just gotta love it.
ICWHATUDO’s research revealed that the democrat show-pony was in fact a real nag. Predictably, the left-wing nutroots is going after him in typical left-wing fashion: innuendo, half-truths, fabrications, and unsubstantiated claims. IC’s response is priceless, and here is an excerpt:
Left wing sites have begun to hit back, questioning my information. Many are linking to these 5 points from Thinkprogress.org that I will comment on:
“1) Graeme has a scholarship to a private school. The school costs $15K a year, but the family only pays $500 a year.”
For all the claims my research was poor…where’s your link? $15,000? From my link to the schools tuition page:
Tuition for 2007-2008
Lower School $19,530
Middle School $19,530
Upper School $21,080Where did you get your information the family was paying $500 per year? Was this from the talking points memo you got from Harry Reid spokesman Jim Manley? Did he tell you how long they’ve had those scholarships? Any idea why the tenant in the commercial building they own, Mike Reilly (who has known the Frosts for 10 years) said See “Update 2:50pm”it was his understanding the children’s grandparents paid the bill?
We can debate the amount they are paying, or the amount the grandparents are contributing, or the amount that is earned through scholarships but the fact remains the family is paying to send their child to a private school while asking others to pay for their health insurance. Are you claiming otherwise?
“2) His sister Gemma attends another private school to help her with the brain injuries that occurred due to her accident. The school costs $23,000 a year, but the state pays the entire cost.”
Again no link but I heard this as well. It was why I stated in my article that: “His sister Gemma, also severely injured in the accident, attended the same school PRIOR to the accident”
Its funny how the left wing echo chamber is seizing on this point to somehow show my information was bad. That somehow I was saying she was still attending the Park School. Will you concede that my statement “His sister Gemma, also severely injured in the accident, attended the same school PRIOR to the accident” is 100% true? At the time they choose to not purchase health insurance, prior to the accident, at least 2 of their kids attended Park school.
“3) They bought their “lavish house” sixteen years ago for $55,000 at a time when the neighborhood was less than safe.”
Your information is incorrect (and again fails to provide a link). “They” did not buy the house 16 years ago, Mr. Frost bought the home on his own on 11/30/1990. The couple was married in 1992, and it appears his wife paid him $52,500 to be added to the deed on 09/06/2005. Interesting that on the Department of Assessments and Taxation form under “Principal Residence:” it states “NO”. Do they own a second home in addition to the commercial property? Also, please cut and paste from my article where I said they lived in a “Lavish house”. Large house-yes, and nice kitchen from the photo.
“4) Last year, the Frost’s made $45,000 combined. Over the past few years they have made no more than $50,000 combined.
Again no link. What is the source of this claim? Not saying their reported income was not as you state, but as Mr. Frost set up a LLC would you concede its possible that reported income could be different than actual access to financial resources? Maybe those more familiar on why people set up LLC’s can tell us what creative things can be done with finances this way.
“5) The state of Maryland has found them eligible to participate in the CHIP program.”
Exactly! Thanks for making my point. Even with the private school you admit they are partially paying for, even with the home that is not their primary residence, even with the LLC they set up and purchased commercial property with, even with a tenant in the building they own…they still qualify! So why then do we need to expand the program to families with even higher incomes than the Frosts?
I am also a father of 4 and I live in a waterfront house. We have 2 boats and go to the beach for 2 weeks each year. All 4 of my kids go to private school. If the S-CHIP program is expanded…WE WILL QUALIFY! I’d love to use the savings from others paying for my kids health insurance to buy a new motor for my bass boat but is that what we really want from S-CHIP?
Bravo, ICWHATUDO. Facts are indeed our friends.
And Brava to Michelle Malkin. Great job MM.
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Hi all! Just a drive by, but I had to share this.
Global Warming Solved
Hey, Robert D.
IC is a fact checking son of a gun, ain’t he?
The left will do anything to promote socialist health care.
Yep, he is. I was just talking about this with a coworker today, and his two boys are covered for about $20 a month for just about anything. Something like a $10 copay and no deductible for major medical and you can make up to $58,000 and still be eligible. It’s out there if you look.
Look what else I found
Okay….I guess it wasn’t a drive by, more like a stroll through the park.
It’s ok. we won’t tell.
I decided to slow down to smell the roses, so to say. I took tomorrow off….
(thanks for not telling)
Well dang, I went off surfing, and didn’t know we had company.
Don’t you just hate those midweek pop-ins? What’s left in the fridge?
I got one piece of fried chicken, some rice, gravy, green beans, and a bottle of Diet DP.
A veritable feast!
/I ate the rest of the grilled sirloin
OOOH…look, the NYSlimes has a slime piece on this subject, and it appears to me they have read FR.
Capitol Feud: A 12-Year-Old Is the Fodder.
Beggars can’t be choosers. Thanks! if you cooked it I’m sure it’s superb.
So taking the day off, eh?
Does your bride know?
Going fishing?
Sleeping in?
Gonna watch TPIR?
Did you see the Achmed video?
/i’ll stop now
I think it’s sad that these people with several jobs, income property and a $250000 house can scam the system like this.
Yes
Yes
No
It never works out
Huh?
No, I don’t think so?
Okay!
Alrighty!
Too bad.
Dang!
The Price Is Right.
Scroll down a thread or two, or better yet, here is the long version.
*SPEW ALERT*
SILENCE!
I’ll keeel you!
That is Priceless!! I love it.
See what you miss out on during the week?
/henh
I saw that first thing Monday morning, and almost spewed coffee on my monitor.
TPIR- Is Drew hosting yet?
I gonna have to disappear in a little bit, have to make a long distance phone call.
BTW, I fixed your blockquote on Piglosi up yonder.
I read most of the comments on the FR thread, and I have many doubts about the veracity of the claims of the parents about the value of their home, and their personal holdings.
I’ll be here full time soon enough…the weather is a changin fast here. Global warming, droughts, famine, and depressed economy are all coming to an end here. None were ever here to begin with, but you’d never know it….
Thanks bud. I’ll check in a bit later.
Good to see your nic. Yep, the killer cold is fast approaching, and the angle of the sun is getting low.
I think we’re going to have an early winter here in Jefferson. Work will be slowing a bit early but we had a “drought ” last year and this will show the idiots how the weather works. (geeze I hates city folks movin’ here) A drought to them is now one winter with lower than normal rainfall, and our biggest lake (Shasta) falls 100 ft below the crest.
I’ll say g’nite now…..
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