Harry Reid: Evangelicals are “anti-christian”
October 13th, 2007 at 9:29 am . by nukeLost in the coverage of Harry Reid’s pilgrimage to Salt Lake City this week was this small paragraph from the Deseret Morning News…
Reid also told reporters the Republican Party has been driven by evangelical Christians for 20 years. “They are the most anti-Christian people I can imagine, the people from the Christian far right.”
Let that statement sink in for a minute.
For all of the bluster and faux outrage exhibited by leading Democrats about conservatives somehow questioning their “patriotism,” for Harry Reid to make a statement which questions the Salvation of conservative Christians is remarkable for its self-righteousness, arrogance, and mean-spiritedness.
To be “anti-Christian”, it also follows that one is “anti-Christ.” Reid’s statement goes far beyond political criticism into the realm of spiritual condemnation: a symbolic “shaking off the dust from the shoes” as a witness against the recalcitrance and unrepented spirit of another. It is indeed a judgement that is called for in Scripture, but one that should not be used lightly, nor in an emotional outburst. Reid’s statement was calculated as well as cynical. His words call for a broad judgement and condemnation of tens of millions of Americans who are Christians, who happen to vote Republican.
Harry Reid says that conservative Christians have focused too much on single issues such as abortion, while the country has “gone beyond that to other issues,” such as global warming. Over 1,000,000 American children die each year at abortion mills in this country. It’s no wonder that Democrats do not want to confront that figure and are ready to move on to their new-age buzz-issues like global warming. One million American deaths each year is such a mind-boggling figure that it’s completely understandable that Democrats don’t want to focus on it, or on the brutality and guilt-inducing consequences of their support for this barbarism.
After reading Harry Reid’s words, it’s clear that he considers himself both a patriot as well as a Christian. Obviously he has re-defined both words to meet his political motives and behaviors. Not surprising, given that this is the political party who was led by a man who was unable to define the meaning of “is.”
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Thanks for the nod Nuke.
If Reid is a patriot and a Christian, then I am the queen of England. Heh
He needs to STHU and STHD.
Referring back to my comment on the Dobson thread, this is another example of the wedge-driving the LLL is attempting, to alienate and divide the Evangelical Christians and values-voters, from the GOP.
If one voter falls for this skinny dipstick’s definitions of Americans, then he is vindicated for any banalities by his party.
He’s a banal little man. Outrageous comments aren’t going to change that.
As it is, I hardly think that anybody from the religious right would think that Hillary would be preferable for President over, say, Rudy.
I don’t think any in the religious right would find her preferable over the singing sensation…Beaker.
Hell, maybe I’m part of that religious right that Harry is busily slandering. Seems to me that just about everybody in Salt Lake would be as well.
Had to run into town for a bit….SwampMan is getting ready for his trip to south Florida and I’m busily picking up things that he has forgotten that he needs to take with him.
I’m a lil’ worried, though. Years of working a different schedule means that I do not hear the alarm going off because it was always for him. Well, perhaps it would be more accurate to say that my subconscious ignores it through long training. He’s going to give me a wake-up call.
I lined up with the other geezers at the grocery store this morning for the yearly flu shot. Theirs were free; I had to pay for mine. I feel like somebody took a shovel handle to my shoulder now. I probably should have gotten the Pneumovax as well.
Afghans arrange marriages for toddler brides.
The Stupid Party
How the Democrats earned the epithet previously reserved for Republicans.
by James W. Ceaser
I found this via The American Thinker. It’s rather long, but I thought it was worth it.
The Whole Thing
Is college worth the money?” If you’re borrowing big bucks for a private college, the answer is no. But then you probably already knew that. As for everybody else, I suppose it depends on the degree. Caveat emptor.
Oops. Uh, sorry about not closing the link.
/Should have taken computer classes. Would have earned more money.
I’ll pop in from time to time, and see what’s happening, but today is college football day, and what a schedule there is.
/watermelon-watermelon-watermelon rind…look at the scoreboard and see who’s behind
/not my behind…whoses behind
No, Swampie, it’s just a detention of detail.
/henh
Heh. I was wondering about that scoreboard.
Hey, you gonna be cheerin’ for Georgia in the Florida/Georgia game?
/I’m wearin’ the red and black in hostile territory.
Bird flu: It’s still out there. I’m wondering if that 81% death rate is accurate, or if there are a whole lot more people walking around that had it and survived than we know about.
Avian Flu — 1918 and Today — Protein Enhances Lethality of Virus.
Forget Bird Flu, you need to worry about ……
Redneck Flu
I saw that. One of the top one hundred stupidest dang thing I ever heard out of the Democrats.
/They say so many stupid things it’s hard to keep track.
Yup.
Yikes! Membership Has Its Privileges.
Hillary Clinton Terrible Truths
Posted by Frank J. at 11:00 AM
When people are around Hillary Clinton, they are told to under no circumstances make eye contact with her. It’s not because she’s an arrogant bitch, though; it’s because that will instantly turn you to stone. Also, she’s an arrogant bitch.
Daily John Edwards Fabulous Fact
Posted by Harvey at 02:50 PM
The worst part of being John Edwards’s secretary? Constantly being called into his office to help him pull Post-It Notes off legal documents.
Bonus Fact from Casper the Friendly Host:
Fred Thompson isn’t the only candidate with a trophy wife; unfortunately for John Edwards, his trophy was for last place.
Sabatoge at Michigan Nuke Plant.
Hat Tip Ed Mahmoud abu Al Kahoul at Gulf Coast Pundit.
Candidate’s oral sex slogan no laughing matter. To his opponents, anyway.
North Port Explores Using Purified Waste Water for Drinking
Meanwhile, Lake Lanier, Atlanta’s largest water supplier, has three month’s of water storage left.
What a list of losers for the NPP.
I’m, uh, feeling all ronery in here. See y’all later!
Oh, thank goodness you’re here, Robert! I thought I had driven everybody away.
/Make a note to change perfume from eu de sheep.
Nope I’m here, just doin’ some house cleanin’.
Chile born Boca resident leads U.S. English drive.
eu de sheep!
I’m getting the chores done so I can consume an adult beverage or two while using my grill to add to Global warming and watch those germ laden NASCAR drivers and fans tonight.
That’s quite a refreshing change there isn’t it? (the English thing)
Unnnbelievable.
Dean Scream Headed To Big Screen - Yeeaaah!
The Nobel Joke
Yeah, not a bad accomplishment to collect a “peace prize” for something related to neither peace nor science.
This is one cool kid. Scary, but all ended well.
Cops Pull Over Boy, 3, Driving Along Highway in Toy Mustang GT
If you want to take a shot at some LLL trolls, check this out. Robbie created a leftard hissy-fit with this “blog Whore” post.
I’ll bet the folks at Hot Air don’t know about this, either.
/hint-hint
Done. hehehe.
Heh. I think I’d bet on the guy with no neck.
Me too. Haven’t gotten a nibble at HA though.
Henh…good on ya’, Robert D.
Swampie, that would be Robbie.
It was all just a canard, but the LLL, being such twits got all upset about “violence”, instead of “free speech.”
I had some fun near the bottom with the same tired idjit from Holland.
DAMNIT!!!!!!
The Tigers lost to Kentucky. I knew this game was an ambush after the big win over Florida last week.
So the only two teams in the top ten that are undefeated are now *ugh*Ohio State, and USF.
I haven’t flipped over to see what UGA was doing lately, but they were behind at half to….Vanderbilt?
Now if my Sooners can hold on, at least my teams will not all be going down today.
I can’t believe it. LSU still wins the Nat champ.
I have a favor to ask. Please click over to GOP hub and vote for this story. Need 4 votes to publish.
thanks
Gotcha covered.
thanks
I’m on it, nuke.
Uhh…forgot about Cal, but who doesn’t.
preshate that
Let’s take a look at the religious right shall we? And no I am not a Democrat nor am I a Republican. I am a Christian born in America.
Let’s look at some of the “Christian” leaders of the religious right.
Pat Robertson -
Robertson lives on the top of a Virginia mountain, in a huge mansion with a private airstrip. He owns the Ice Capades, a small hotel, diamond mines (in Zaire), a vitamin company (Kalo Vita) involved in a multi-level marketing scheme along the lines of Amway, and until recently, International Family Entertainment, parent company of the Family Channel (see below) — all estimated to be worth between $150-200 million. How does a televangelist, who is supposedly involved in non-profit work, manage to create such a fortune for himself? One thing is known for sure, Robertson’s numerous private business interests have at times pushed their expenses onto the tax-exempt, religious interests of CBN. For example, Robertson was caught using CBN money and equipment to aid his diamond mining operation — a double good deal for Pat, seeing as he employed people in Zaire for ridiculously low wages, and managed to use CBN’s infrastructure to cut costs even more. In looking at Robertson’s businesses, one is struck by the constant use of non-profit, donor money to fund his schemes. (For documentation of this and more, see Rob Boston’s book entitled The Most Dangerous Man in America?: Pat Robertson and the Rise of the Christian Coalition.)
Charles McArthur Ghankay Taylor (born January 28, 1948) served as President of Liberia from 1997 to 2003. He was once Africa’s most prominent warlord[1] during the First Liberian Civil War in the early 1990s, was elected president at the end of that conflict, subsequently was forced into exile, and now is in detention at the International Criminal Court, where he faces trial from Sierra Leone’s Special Court.
http://www.rapidnet.com/~jbeard/bdm/exposes/robertson/general.htm
Taylor, who was president of Liberia from 1997 to 2003, is being tried on 11 counts of war crimes, crimes against humanity, and other serious violations of international law committed during Sierra Leone’s conflict. The alleged crimes include murdering and mutilating civilians, using women and girls as sex slaves, and abducting both adults and children and making them perform forced labor or become fighters.
http://hrw.org/english/docs/2007/05/31/sierra16028.htm
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn?pagename=article&node=&contentId=A5339-2001Nov9
Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson accused President Bush of “undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels” by asking Liberian President Charles Taylor, recently indicted for war crimes, to step down.
“How dare the president of the United States say to the duly elected president of another country, ‘You’ve got to step down,’” Robertson said Monday on “The 700 Club,” broadcast from his Christian Broadcasting Network.
“It’s one thing to say, we will give you money if you step down and we will give you troops if you step down, but just to order him to step down? He doesn’t work for us.”
Robertson, a Bush supporter who has financial interests in Liberia, said he believes the State Department has “mismanaged the situation in nation after nation after nation” in Africa.
“So we’re undermining a Christian, Baptist president to bring in Muslim rebels to take over the country,” he said in the broadcast.
Robertson told The Washington Post in an interview published Thursday that he has “written off in my own mind” an $8 million investment in a Liberian gold mining venture he made four years ago, under an agreement with Taylor’s government.
http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2003/07/11/national/main562915.shtml
Pat Robertson Engages in Illegal Mining Operation in Liberia
http://www.theperspective.org/patrobertson_taylor.html
Jerry Falwell -
Affiliates of Sun Myung Moon, controversial leader of the Unification Church, have a history of supporting and courting conservative evangelicals. Now, according to published reports, financial support has been filtered to Liberty University from Moon-related enterprises. But Liberty founder Jerry Fallwell told Christianity Today that the source of the funds does not influence his ministry.
“If the American Atheists Society or Saddam Hussein himself ever sent an unrestricted gift to any of my ministries,” Falwell says, “be assured I will operate on Billy Sunday’s philosophy: The Devil’s had it long enough, and quickly cash the check.”
While Moon may not be the Devil, Christians contest Moon’s claim that he is destined by God to complete an unfulfilled mission of Jesus. Moon claims Jesus failed as the Messiah because he did not wed and have children. The divorced 78-year-old Moon says he and his current wife, Hak Ja Han Moon, 53, are the “true parents of all humanity.”
$3.5 MILLION GIFT: In November, the Los Angeles Times reported that the Women’s Federation for World Peace (WFWP), which is headed by Moon’s wife, contributed $3.5 million to Christian Heritage Foundation (CHF) of Virginia for “educational purposes” in 1995.
Christianity Today International
http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/february9/8t2082.html
May 18, 1998
Falwell Denounces Operation Rescue
Operation Rescue (OR) is accusing Liberty University and its chancellor, Jerry Falwell, of being soft on child pornography.
At the entrance to the Lynchburg, Virginia, school on March 19, three dozen protesters held placards showing photographs of nude children from a book they claimed was available at the campus bookstore.
Falwell quickly and angrily called the demonstrators “thugs and thieves.” The protesters took part in ten days of rallies and prayer vigils for OR national director Flip Benham, jailed in Lynchburg for trespassing during an anti-abortion protest
http://www.ctlibrary.com/ct/1998/may18/8t614a.html
http://www.freedomofmind.com/images/pics/falwell.jpg
Money, Guns, and God
http://www.portfolio.com/careers/features/2007/09/17/Unification-Church/?TID=rm/goo/Stolen_Guns_And_Murder_CT
In 6/85, one of Moon’s organizations held several rallies, one of which was in Washington, D.C. Falwell joined a group of religious leaders at a Washington news conference dubbed as a “welcome home” party for Moon, who had just been released from prison after serving 13 months for evading federal income taxes. At this conference, Falwell suggested that President Ronald Reagan issue a pardon to clear Moon’s name. 7
In December of 1995 in Montevideo, Uruguay, Falwell spoke at a conference sponsored by Moon’s Inter Religious Federation for World Peace and Washington Times Foundation, and titled, “Christian Ecumenism in the Americas: Toward One Christian Family Under God.” In his speech, Falwell said, “It is my observation and personal conviction that conferences and seminars like this one can be very beneficial for building bridges of communication.” (”Bridges of communication”? What does that mean! Christ didn’t say, “Go into all the world and build bridges of communion.” He commands us to “preach the gospel”! Any lesser “communication” is compromise and a denial of our Lord.) 8
According to Cornerstone magazine, “In 1994, Jerry Falwell quietly accepted a $3.5 million donation from a Unification Church front group, the Women’s Federation for World Peace, to help bail out Falwell’s then-insolvent Liberty University.” The magazine also reported that Robert Parry, a journalist for I.F. Magazine and the Los Angeles Times, revealed that Moon had funneled the donation through the Christian Heritage Foundation (CHF), a non-profit group that had bought the school’s debt, which at the time amounted to $73 million. The reporter had used an IRS tax form to track the donation’s source. Rumors about the Unification Church-Liberty University relationship had circulated for months.
Some of the others -
http://www.seekgod.ca/cnp.f.htm
The Moonies of the Right: Cult Leader Sun Myung Moon and the Religious Right
http://griperblade.blogspot.com/2006/06/moonies-of-right-cult-leader-sun-myung.html
Transcript of a Radio Discussion about Sun Myung Moon and his Affiliation with the Christian Right
http://www.cephasministry.com/nwo_moon_and_the_right.html
Pat Boone, Bush, Ralph Reed and…
http://iapprovethismessiah.com/2006/09/pat-boone-bush-ralph-reed-and.html
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/augustweb-only/8-6-33.0.html
Rev. Moon is tearing down racial walls and strengthening families [ACLC Co-Convener Pastor T.L. Barrett, Jr. was reconciled to his own wife after years of separation, through the We Will Stand! Tour]. That is why some of the nation’s most prominent pastors are standing with Rev. Moon. We chose the theme, “Rebuild the Family, Restore the Community, Renew the Nation and the World,” and invited Rev. Moon as our keynote speaker . We pray for those who ignorantly malign this man and falsely assume that our association even in the face of criticism must have been purchased through a bribe. Rev. Moon has preached one family under God and the unity of the church and promoted interracial marriage for 40 years. We thank God for the blessings we have received through his ministry. We Will Stand! Bishop David Billings Pastor T.L. Barrett, Jr. Archbishop G. Augustus Stallings Brooklyn, NY Washington, DC Washington, DC
Rev. William Revely Rev. Michael Jenkins Rev. Levy Daugherty Detroit, MI Chicago, IL Norfolk, VA
Dr. Hycel Taylor Rev. Phillip Schanker Chicago, IL Washington, DC
http://www.wewillstand.org/statements/aclc_20010727.html
Are followers of Sun Myung Moon expanding their influence among conservative Christians?
http://www.christianitytoday.com/ct/2001/augustweb-only/8-6-36.0.html
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-5858563460160204776&q=Rev+moon&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=8364826129247149817&q=Rev+moon&hl=en
http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6257517709901358188&q=Rev+moon&hl=en
Georgia won, but barely.
Yeah, I saw that field goal, just as they were lining up on the field for the attempt. Not an impressive win, but hey, it counts. Stafford hasn’t looked very good to me this season. Lots of bad throws and bad decisions.
Uhhh…Matthew, if that is your real name. Honestly, do you think anyone is going to look at the plethora of links you loaded to prove your point? The sheer volume of links is what got your post put in the spam filter. Out of a sense of fair play, I released it. Are the gentlemen and/or ladies you reference whom you consider the leaders of the Christian right? I’m part of the Christian right, and those people’s opinions and actions don’t have anything to do with my opinions or perceptions of what my values are or should be.
Even if your attempt made a compelling argument for me or anyone to turn our back on the Christian right, I would still rather have the support of the people you mention, than George Soros and the Godless leftist.
Matthew, you claim to be neither a Republican nor a Democrat.
Do you vote?
Why should people be afraid to face the truth? Do you want to know the truth about many who claim to be part of the religious right or not? Again, some of those are actual video of many of these people associating with Rev Moon who has has declard himself the new Messiah.
That is why I posted it and I have no problem posting anywhere that Christians visit and want to know the truth.
I have no idea what Soros or the others have to do with this. And as far as having the support of the Christian right I stay with the support of Jesus Christ, my Savior.
Again I am not part of the right or the left. I am a Christian and HIS Teaching comes before any type of politics.
Do I vote? Yes.
Fear?
Heh.
Falwell is dead. The Moonies are wackos. Pat Robertson is all about Pat Robertson. What’s to fear?
I repeat my question. Do you vote?
I said yes I vote. And if the Moonies are wackos why do many on both the right and left associate with him, take money from him, take money from him for speaking engagements where they tell others what a good Christian he is and why he is right? Some of them even helped arrange and attended his Coronation as the “new messiah” in 2004 in the Dirksen Building in Washington DC.
I have no idea how many people associate with Moon. I thought he was a wacko when I read about the first “mass wedding” he performed. Frankly, I’m not too concerned about him.
You seem concerned that he is deceiving many people. Your concern is well-taken. Thanks for the reference post. I’ll copy and paste it to the contributors page.
Do you have a website?
No I am html and java illiterate. I have been an Oracle DBA for many years and hope to retire in about 4 or 5 years. Then I might get off my lazy rear end and learn how to build one.
And I appreciate your reponses and in particular the tone of your reponses. I find that rather unusual on internet sites where people post.
People have to make the decision for themselves. He has laid out the Path and it is up to us to try to be worthy to take it.
Thanks friend and God Bless you and yours.
Okay, Matthew, try and understand, if I or nuke, were afraid of the truth, as you see it, would I have allowed your comment to appear in this comment section, and instead deleted it from the spam filter?
What I am saying is this, you have obviously spent a great deal of time developing your thesis, and then assembling the links to support your claim. My question is, why…to what end? To help edify others, or to impune those whom you view as the Christian right?
I personally don’t care what types of activities those people are, or have been, involved in. I have my faith and no one, not a fallen angel, or an evangelical with an axe to grind, can make my faith waiver.
You say you are not right or left, which is to say you don’t support either party, so nuke’s question pertains to who you vote for, when election day comes. Implying you are an independent or a middle-of-the-roader is fine, but here in Texas, we have an old saying. The only things found in the middle of the road, are yellow lines and dead armadillos. Every one has a party that they are affiliated with, or votes with most often.
As for the Godless George Soros, and his Godless followers, his support for the causes of the left are well documented, and only now are the reasons beginning to come to light.
The Religious Quest of George Soros.
Starting a website is easy and quick.
I suggest you go here
html is helpful, but not required. Plus, it’s free.
If you need some help, let me know.
Kind regards,
Nuke
I understand and by afraid I don’t mean cover up. I mean I am troubled that people seem to let their political ideology/preferences at times override their faith and His Teaching. I have no desire to demean anybody. I have been blessed beyond anything I ever deserved and I want others to put their faith first as you say you have and to use His Words to guide them in their every day life and decisions.
I would never demean others just to try to make a political point. The best way I can explain how I feel is thru Scripture - Luke 18:9-14. Since my grandmother read that to me when I was four years old it has stuck with me and I have no qualms saying I have been in many ways more like the Publican than the Pharisee.
I don’t believe that offending others will draw them toward His Teaching and accepting Him. And if I offended you then I am sorry.
As I said, I have been blessed beyond anything I could ever have imgained. When doctors from many places tell you that you are truly a miracle that we can’t explain I understand just how forgiving He really is. Quickly, I went down on a motorcycle in 2002 and destroyed the entire front half of my brain. I was in a coma for 3 months and then was nothing but a “vegetable” for another month.
My wife tells me that I was given less than a 3% of surviving and if I did survive I would require constant care. On July 6, 2002 I passed away (don’t like the word died) and I was declared deceased. I have been told that 23 minutes passed and then my heart started beating and I started breathing on my own. My wife told me that it was about 3 hours later after they had just moved me back into critical care that I opened my eyes and tried to ask “where are we”.
All I can say is, if anybody has a doubt just put it aside and try to live life and follow the path He provides us. It would take pages and pages to tell you the whole thing but let’s just say, I no longer believe - I know. I had the out-of-body and can remember everything as if it happened 5 minutes ago. And what I heard Him say to me is “GO BACK, YOU ARE NOT TO BE HERE YET, GO BACK, I HAVE THINGS FOR YOU TO DO, GO BACK”.
And as I said it would take all night for me to post what I have been blessed to experience since then.
And much to the surprise of the doctors at the neurological center at the hospital I was able to walk out the door and go home with my wife on July 17, 2002. And I returned to work on August 19, 2002.
It has been suggested that I should take the time to write/document everything we have experienced and have it published. Right now I am just content to give my Testimony and try to be worthy of what He provided.
Take care and if you think I am a nut then I understand but I will say without any doubt that this is not about me…. It is His way of allowing me to spread his word.
Again, thank you for the conversation and should you ever wish to talk more I would be more than happy to do so.
God Bless and I hope I have not taken to much of your time.
Dale
Thanks for the link. I’ll take a look at it.
you’re welcome. Do drop by again.
G-nite y’all.
Dale, no I wasn’t offended, just trying to make both of our positions clear, so we could proceed.
I hope you take the time to read the link I offered concerning Soros. The man(?) is truly scary.
As for your story, I believe you. I’ve heard remarkable stories before, similar to yours, and each time I do, I just nod my head…yep. I’ve had my own epiphany with God, and wrote about it on this blog, some months ago. I’ve also had an out of body experience, though it occurred years after I felt God’s hand, so I know what you mean about being aware of all that happened, yet being detached, and viewing it, in my case, from above.
You really should look into starting your own blog, and also publishing your story, eventhough I’ve found it isn’t as easy as one would think, your story could be invaluable to others.
As for politics and religion, they are both important in our daily lives, and yes, I do consider the politicians and their supporters faith, when I vote. I was a Democrat for most of my early adult life, but it isn’t the same party now as it was, and there is no place for a conservative, values based voter anymore, especially when you look at how the leftist view us Christians, and support the slaughter of the most innocent, our unborn.
I don’t think you offended anyone here Dale. A respectful exchange of ideas is what we want. (I hope)
Interesting. I wonder how many of us there are that have had an experience like that. In my case, I became less interested in the outer trappings of religion and ultimately stopped attending church on a regular basis.
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comment number 69 by: Robert_D
October 14th, 2007 at 12:09 am
I don’t think you offended anyone here Dale. A respectful exchange of ideas is what we want. (I hope)
Well I think I might spend more time here then. Unfortunately that seems to be a rare idea on the internet when it comes to politics or faith. I honestly believe that many problems today are caused by the unwillingness (a word?) of people to carry on a civilized conversation/debate. When I see it getting heated I have to back away from it. On of the negative things resulting from my accident is that the front part of the brain( or so the doctors told me) is where inhibitors reside and I have learn to be patient and control my emotions because mine apparently no longer function at all. Another less serious negative is I no longer have any sense of smell and my taste for food changes often during a the week. One day I will like a type of food and the next I won’t be able to stand it because it tastes completely different.
One thing some Christians on these types of message boards have jumped on me about is because I usually refuse to talk bad or say negative things to/about those who sin and that means I am weak. I have no problem telling somebody that they are doing something that is wrong in His Eyes and I would hope if I am they would do the same. But I just cannot bring myself to engage in the ad hominem because I see no purpose in it. Everytime I start to get a bit emotional or angry Luke 15:1-7 comes to mind and I realize if I wish tell them my testimony it makes no sense to act in a way that makes them not want to hear.
I have no doubt this has been a blessing. There have been soem who told me they were agnostic or atheist and they couldn’t understand if I am a “real Christian” why when I say something is a sin don’t I tell them they are evil and that I believe/hope they will burn in hell for what they do or what they believe or don’t believe like they often hear. I just tell them it’s not my place to say those things or condemn them because I am far from being perfect and that I want them to understand that He has provided the path and it is their decision to accept it and follow it or not to. A couple of times I have had them tell me that perhaps they should consider looking at the Bible and maybe, just maybe they are missing something.
I believe that is what He has for me. Before my accident I was a believer and would not deny that I accepted that he shed his blood for my sins. But, I was an introvert and seldom would talk to others and usually found something “more important” to do as opposed to expressing my faith, attending services and trying to follow that path.
My wife and best friend for the past 37 years tells me that the Lord realized that it would take a good slap upside the head to get my full attention and that is what happened. Yes there are still some minor problems at times because of the accident but when people ask me do I wish I had not happened I tell them if that is what it took for Him to get my attention and let me know that I needed to change then I willingly accept it and wouldn’t undo it. Of course I always say I wish I had not been so hard headed that I needed something like that in the first place.
Again, I don’t want to use up too much of your site here but when talking about our Lord and Savior I can talk/type almost non-stop. And my accident and the blessing I recieved from the Lord is only a small part of what what He has allowed us to experience. Maybe I should work on creating a web site so I can help make others aware. One of these times I will have post some of the things my wife and I have been blessed by the Lord to witness since my accident.
Take care guys and thanks for the opportunity to allow me to share my testimony and blessing.
God Bless
Dale
And as you can see from my typing and syntax that another negative is how difficult is to convey meaning in typewritten messages.
Your wife sounds like a wise lady. You are very fortunate.
No probs, Dale.
I can only speak for myself at this blog, as it is nuke’s, but my journey was a personal one, just as was your’s. I don’t try to convince others that they are missing out on something wonderful, they just have to find out for themselves. “Witnessing” is just that, it’s not trying to convince other people how they should feel or live.
You are much more steeped in scripture than I am, I just know what is in my heart. I’m not perfect, by any measure, and I enjoy a good joke, even if they can be somewhat bawdy at times, but it’s because I know the difference between what is right and wrong, as to how far I will go.
I encourage you to stop by and chat, there are only a few of us as regulars, but you will find we spend a great deal of time discussing politics, and often don’t say nice things about those we view as a detriment to our daily lives.
We are just humans, good people, but not afraid to admit our shortcomings, or our opinions. We sometimes make each other mad, but we work through it, only to realize some of it is just a misunderstanding due to the limits of the keyboard.
As for your keyboard skills, don’t let that slow you down if you want to start your own blog, that’s why the keyboard has a backspace button.
There is a fella you would probably enjoy very much. I discovered him by accident, posting on another blog.
Check out the below story I wrote about him, and click on his links. A really good man.
“Peace Is Not A Cause-It Is An Effect!”
I sent an email to Dale and invited him to post here until he sets up a website.
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