Archive for February, 2007

Wolf supporters show up in force

From the Star Tribune.

By KATHLEEN MILLER
Associated Press writer

CHEYENNE, Wyo. — Opponents of removing wolves from the federal endangered species protection in Wyoming far outnumbered supporters of delisting wolves at a U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service public hearing on wolf management Tuesday.

“The Endangered Species Act has been hugely successful in restoring the gray wolf and we want it to stay that way,” Sierra Club regional spokesman Adam Rissien said at the hearing.

Wolf advocate Emily Swift read an essay she wrote about family vacations in Yellowstone Park before urging the panel to rethink delisting wolves.

“I believe this country should be thinking about future generations and I would like my children to be able to appreciate the wolves as I have,” Swift said.

The state and federal governments have been litigating over the issue of wolf management since the rejection of the state’s first wolf management plan in 2004. The situation has so far prevented removing wolves from federal protections in Wyoming and also in Montana and Idaho. Recently the federal government has begun steps to turn over management to the other states and says it’s prepared to continue to manage the animals in Wyoming alone if necessary.

The Fish and Wildlife Service proposed designation of the permanent wolf management area in Wyoming last fall. The proposal calls for the area to extend from Cody south to Meeteetse, around the western boundary of the Wind River Reservation down to Pinedale, west to the Alpine area and then back north to Yellowstone National Park.

Fremont County resident Darlene Vaughan said she thought she was one of the few people at the meeting who had personal experience with wolves on her property.

“It’s time to delist the Rocky Mountain gray wolf from the endangered species list,” she said. “It’s past time to delist them.

“I am concerned with the amount of private property that is within the line that the U.S. Fish and Wildlife has drawn on our state,” Vaughan said. “I think that people should have their constitutional right to defend their private property and that is what concerns me the most.”

Vaughan’s husband, Dave, said he believes the presence of four wolves on his property several years ago resulted in the loss of 20 percent of his herd that year, and ultimately drove his ranch out of business.

“How many business owners can afford to lose 20 percent of their income?” Vaughan said.

Ken Hamilton, a representative of the Wyoming Farm Bureau Federation, agreed with Vaughan.

“Private property in the state of Wyoming should not be asked to sacrifice,” Hamilton said.

“I represent agricultural people throughout the state of Wyoming. These are the folks that have their livestock torn up by wolves. They aren’t compensated for that.”

Approximately 40 conservation group members who traveled from Boulder, Colo., and Fort Collins, Colo., to testify at the hearing made up a large percentage of those who spoke against the delisting of wolves.

“The restoration of the gray wolf in the northern Rockies has been an unparalleled success story,” Boulder resident and National Resources Defense Council representative Amy Mall said.

“Wolves are vital to the health of the region’s ecosystem and they benefit the region’s economy.”

Mall added that Wyoming often uses wolf imagery to attract tourists to the state.

“Wolves might be a national treasure but Wyoming has to live with this issue,” Bob Wharf of Wyoming Sportsmen for Fish and Wildlife said during a break in testimony. “Once wolves are delisted, it will be solely on our dime.”

Several hearing participants wished more residents from the western part of Wyoming had been at the meeting. They said that calving season and treacherous travel conditions had probably affected turnout.

Ed Bangs, a gray wolf recovery coordinator with the U.S. Fish and Wildlife Service, said public comment on the wolf management issue will be accepted until May 9. He said the agency plans to hold a second public hearing in Cody at the end of March.

Wolf supporters show up in force? Yes, but it sounds like most of them were from Colorado.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/28/2007 10:22:39 PM

I think not.

Comment posted by Scott
at 2/28/2007 10:18:15 PM

Seems like it was overwhelmingly out-of-staters that brought the wolves in, too. Coincidence?

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Missouri College Student held after bomb scare involving powder. Bomb scare was hoax.

Anybody taking bets? I first saw this posted at Sweetness & Light and figured since I play guess which political party or guess which religion of peace the person belongs to here at my blog — well, I should just post it.

Because you can click on the link and read the entire story, I’m just going to post the highlight:

Preliminary tests on a white, powdery substance found on the graduate student, whose name and nationality was not released, showed it was powdered sugar, said Lt. Col. David Boyle of the Missouri National Guard. Authorities said the student could face charges.

Comments like that just make us assume the “international student” might be a muslim. Might not be, but might.

Comment posted by kathy
at 3/1/2007 1:48:45 PM

The news media goes out of its way to leave out that kind of information doesn’t it. Which only lends itself to MORE speculation on nationality; etc.

Police found a four-page note — Can’t wait to read this..

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MT House rejects bill to pay state poet

Is this a paid position in some states? Really, I’m not sure but it made me chuckle a bit. Granted, I’m not an artsy type person — maybe you can tell by looking at my blog? My apologies to any of my artsy friends reading this.

HELENA - Montana’s first poet laureate has largely relied on the kindness of friends and strangers to make ends meet during the past 18 months.

The position created by the 2005 Legislature isn’t paid. To make up for that, Poet Laureate Sandra Alcosser of Florence has pinched pennies by carpooling to poetry readings, accepting donations and staying in people’s homes - rather than hotels - in the communities she’s visited.

Last month, she asked lawmakers to make things easier on the next poet laureates by compensating them for travel expenses.

Not for her mind you, the next poet laureates. She’s okay with pinching pennies and carpooling, mooching off people here and there.

The House rejected that request Saturday, 53-47. Opponents called any payment unnecessary and said the position should remain an honorary one.

I’m amazed the vote was this close. 47 Representatives wanted to blow MT money on this lady traveling around reciting poetry? I would imagine their constituents would not appreciate this, but I was wrong once — and might be again. Who knows?

“This is truly growing government in a nonrequired way,” said Rep. John Sinrud, R-Bozeman. “How is this going to help the people of Montana who need health insurance or who need child support or day care? It doesn’t do anything for the state of Montana.”

Rep. Robin Hamilton, D-Missoula, said his bill wouldn’t spend state money.

Instead, it would allow the Montana Arts Council to use about $4,000 in federal grant money to reimburse travel expenses under the position, he said.

There, it happened again — I was wrong! It would not be MT money. It would be United States Citizen’s money paying for the MT state poet. That makes it much better.

Rep. Franke Wilmer, D-Bozeman, said she’s “ashamed” that Alcosser has had to “pass the hat” for her travel costs and urged lawmakers to vote for the bill.

I’ll admit that it’s just me being bitter here, but how about just getting a real job? You know, then pay your own expenses?

Opponents said the Arts Council is already strapped for cash, and wondered where it would get the extra grant money for such expenses.

Others worried the bill would lead to requests for more money or a salary.

Seriously? Nah, wouldn’t happen, would it?

“This person knew up front it was going to be an honorary position,” Rep. Bruce Malcolm, R-Emigrant, said.

Ah ha! There’s the key. I wonder if she knew what exactly was meant by honorary position?

“There was no money from the state for it. I’m sorry, but that’s the rules of the game. I don’t think this body needs to start down this slippery road in spending more money.”

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Cheney OK After Afghan Blast; 14 Killed

UPDATE: HotAir has a thread on this too.

UPDATE: Michelle has some of the comments by lefties on her blog. I’m not surprised by their comments — just disgusted.

Texas Rainmaker has it too.

By ALISA TANG

(AP) U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney, center, arrives for a meeting with Afghan President Hamid Karzai,…
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BAGRAM, Afghanistan (AP) - A suicide bomber attacked the entrance to the main U.S. military base in Afghanistan Tuesday during a visit by Vice President Dick Cheney, killing at least 14 people and wounding a dozen more. The Taliban claimed responsibility and said Cheney was the target.

Cheney’s spokeswoman said he was fine, and the vice president later met with President Hamid Karzai in the capital, Kabul, before leaving the country.

There were conflicting reports on the death toll. Provincial Gov. Abdul Jabar Taqwa said 20 people were killed, while NATO said initial reports indicated three fatalities, including a U.S. soldier, a South Korean coalition soldier and a U.S. government contractor whose nationality wasn’t immediately known. NATO said 27 people also were wounded.

It was unclear why there was such a large discrepancy in the reports. Associated Press reporters at the scene said they had seen the bodies of at least 12 people carried in black body bags and wooden coffins from near the base into a market area where hundreds of Afghans had gathered to mourn.

Maj. William Mitchell said it did not appear the explosion was intended as a threat to the vice president. “He wasn’t near the site of the explosion,” Mitchell said. “He was safely within the base at the time of the explosion.”

However, a purported Taliban spokesman, Qari Yousef Ahmadi, said Cheney was the target of the attack.

“We knew that Dick Cheney would be staying inside the base,” Ahmadi told AP telephone from an undisclosed location. “The attacker was trying to reach Cheney.”

Ahmadi said the attack was carried out by an Afghan called Mullah Abdul Rahim from Logar province.

The explosion happened near the first of at least three gated checkpoints vehicles must pass through before gaining access to Bagram.

The sprawling base houses 5,100 U.S. troops and 4,000 other coalition forces and contractors. High security areas within the base are blocked by their own checkpoints. It was unclear how an attacker could expect to penetrate the base, locate the vice president and get close to him without detection.

“We maintain a high-level of security here at all times. Our security measures were in place and the killer never had access to the base,” said Lt. Col. James E. Bonner, the base operations commander. “When he realized he would not be able to get onto the base he attacked the local population.”

It was not the first attack apparently aimed at a top U.S. official in Afghanistan. In January 2006, a militant blew himself up in Uruzgan province during a supposedly secret visit by the U.S. ambassador, killing 10 Afghans.

Khan Shirin, a private security guard, sobbed near the dead body of his relative, Farvez, a truck driver and the representative of transport association that hauls goods for the U.S. base. Shirin said many of the people killed were truck drivers waiting to get inside the base.

Ajmall, a shopkeeper, said the “huge” blast shook a small market where he has a stall about 500 yards from the Bagram base. Ajmall, who goes by one name, said those wounded in the blast were taken inside the U.S. base for treatment.

One of the dozen U.S. soldiers standing guard near the blast site said that most bodies had been returned to their families, and that some may have died of their wounds at the military hospital.

“It’s a bad, bad day,” said the soldier, who declined to give his name.

South Korea’s Defense Ministry said one of its troops stationed in Bagram, Sgt. Yoon Jang-ho, 27, was killed in the explosion. South Korea has about 200 engineers and medics in Bagram.

Cheney, who spent the night at Bagram, left the base about two hours after the 10 a.m. blast. The explosion sent up a plume of smoke visible by reporters inside the base traveling with Cheney, and American military officials declared a “red alert” inside the base.

Earlier, he ate with soldiers, telling reporters that “breakfast was excellent” but making no other comments.

In Kabul, Cheney was met by armed guards with guns drawn on the tarmac and was rushed by ground convoy to the presidential palace, where he and Karzai walked a long receiving line and past oriental rugs laid out on the wet, stone pavement.

Cheney and Karzai were expected to discuss the surge in violence in Afghanistan. Five years after their fundamentalist regime was toppled, Taliban-led militants have stepped up attacks and Afghan, U.S. and NATO forces are bracing for a fresh wave of violence in the spring.

There were 139 suicide bombings last year, a five-fold increase over 2005, and Maj. Gen. David Rodriguez has said he expects the number of suicide bombs to rise even further in 2007.

In the southern Afghan city of Kandahar, meanwhile, a suicide attacker targeting Afghan police blew himself up, wounding three people, said police officer Abdul Nafai.

NATO-led troops patrolling the city also fatally shot a civilian who drove too close to their convoy, police said, the third such fatal shooting this month. Squadron Leader David Marsh, a military spokesman, said soldiers had given signals for the car to stop but that it kept approaching.

Associated Press reporters Amir Shah in Bagram and Noor Khan in Kandahar contributed to this report.

I thank God he is safe.

Comment posted by Teresa
at 3/5/2007 11:25:28 PM

I enjoyed reading your new articles. Keep up the good work! I will be back. :)

Teresa

Comment posted by Scott
at 3/1/2007 5:15:43 AM

Saudi Arabia has too much oil, and even worse, they sell it to us. Thus, the best choice is to move to Canada where they have socialized healthcare! :-D

Comment posted by theobromophile
at 2/28/2007 11:19:14 PM

LOL! You can do that. I’ll make posters.

Funny how liberals complained of wanting to move to CANADA after the last election, on account of not liking what’s going on in IRAQ. I mean, if they really don’t like it, why not move to Saudi Arabia in a show of soldiarity with the Middle East and their repressed values? :)

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/28/2007 2:03:50 PM

Sounds like a plan. Do you wanna make the sign up sheet or should I? ;)

Comment posted by theobromophile
at 2/28/2007 1:52:54 PM

I think they’ve chosen their side, don’t you?

Yes, I do. Now let’s send them over to the Middle East to live with their side - religious warfare, repression of women, government-sponsored nothing - and see how they like it.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/28/2007 6:49:34 AM

Hi theobromophile,

I tend to lean with you on this. I hate the restriction of free speech. As for thinking that this assassination attempt might re-energize our country — well, it apparently is re-energizing the left. They are backing the enemy more than ever. I think they’ve chosen their side, don’t you?

Comment posted by theobromophile
at 2/27/2007 11:31:10 PM

Theoretically, it could be treason to call for the assassination of the President or Vice President.

I’m not a fan of government restriction of speech, because I think that the solution to bad speech is good speech, not censorship. It’s really disguisting, what people are saying about VP Cheney. Very glad that he is safe… one would think that an assassination attempt would reenergise our country into fighting the war in the Middle East.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/27/2007 7:11:35 PM

Hi Hank,

I do not understand how people are able to get away with that. Maybe the internet just makes it impossible for the Secret Service to keep up with? I don’t know, but I would like to see an example made of some of these people. The law is the law. I’d like to see it upheld once in a while.

Comment posted by icanplainlysee
at 2/27/2007 7:03:06 PM

You might have seen an occasional comment from KayinMaine. She seems to thrive among every conspiracy theory and the newest Bushisanidiot news, twisted or not.

Before I quit wasting my time, I stopped and read a person who was having a running conversation with her, He said ” I would take the gun out of my pocket and shoot Pelosi first, that blah blah blah, then shoot Bush right between the eyes.

I commented that he consider himself warned, and that threatening the life of the president of the United States just might bring an official visit to his home.

Yeah, right they both said. Piss off and take your little dog with you Cretin.

So, I did.

Just goes to show how malicious bitter, angry people can be.

=;-)~

Comment posted by Neil
at 2/27/2007 5:29:06 PM

Yes, you can really feel the love from the Left! What hypocrites.

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Climate expert says Gore’s concert tour fueled by exaggeration

Because he blogs on it often, I just wanted to post in support of I Can Plainly See’s efforts. After all, it’s the weekend, and what can be more fun than posting an article that refers to AlGore as an exaggerator. Of course, I’m not sure why we give the dude that invented the internet such a hard time. It’s a great invention and we should just appreciate the fact that he brought it to us.

A climatologist at the Cato Institute says former Vice President Al Gore’s climate change concerts will do little more than add to the public hysteria over global warming. The former VP’s “extreme view” on global warming, says the climatologist, is not supported by scientific literature.

Gore recently announced plans for a 24-hour global concert dubbed “Live Earth” featuring more than 100 popular rock musicians. The event is part of the “Save Our Selves” campaign to address what Gore calls a global climate crisis. Promoters of the event predict it will bring in an audience of two billion people.

Patrick Michaels is a senior fellow in environmental studies at the Cato Institute, and author of the book Meltdown: The Predictable Distortion of Global Warming by Scientists, Politicians and the Media. He says the “Save Our Selves” campaign is based on a flawed premise.

“Gore is known to exaggerate things,” he says bluntly, “and [on] global warming he has a very extreme view that really has no reasonable support at all in the refereed scientific literature.”

So what is Gore’s view? “His view is that somehow in a hundred years that a massive amount of ice is going to fall off of Greenland [and] sea levels will rise ten feet or more unless we do something within the next eight years about this,” Michaels explains.

The Cato Institute fellow contends that, in the first place, there is really nothing one can do. “And number two,” he concludes, “his scenario just really doesn’t have much grounding in the science literature.”

Michaels says Gore and the musicians he has enlisted will see nothing hypocritical about flying a private jet to the concert because they believe their work is more important than that of others.

Conserve as I say, not as I do (found via Michelle)

 

Comment posted by theobromophile
at 2/27/2007 3:55:48 PM

The Oscars, for those who missed it, were a God event. Not one, but TWO winners thanked the Lord.

No, on a serious note, if Ms. Vader could provide for me the clause in the first amendment that requires people reveal their name, address, phone number, blood type, etc in order to earn their right to free speech, I would be greatly appreciative.

I know this was rhetorical, but the First Amendment protects the right to anonymous speech - the right to speak without fear of retribution and the right to speak and have your ideas evaluated on their merits, not on your personality.

Great post, Dr. Bulldog!

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/27/2007 8:51:52 AM

Hi Hank,

Can’t imagine not returning to your place. You get the most interesting threads going there.

I’m glad you feel better after typing that last sentence. I know my blog is all the better for it.

As for finding time to read everyone … it is getting tough. I just hope everyone on our blogrolls realize that they are never forgotten — just put off for a bit while we go about our lives (and jobs!).

Take care and drop in when you can.

Comment posted by icanplainlysee
at 2/26/2007 11:34:21 PM

Hi T,

As to Leah V, no one has asked if Darth was a relative. Just wondered. She did a drive by at my place, but never returned.?? I’m so friendly, too.

Al got his oscar allright. A local talk radio guy described the event, along with some audio. Seems the Oscars will forever be a “green” event. Great.

The crowd gave the expected nod for a run at Prez and affirmed the PC nature of it’s selection. I’m working with an agent now to get my own docu-drama made about moderate muslims and patriotic liberals, if I can find
some.

The Grit mentioned something I’ve thought about myself, not enough time to visit everyone everyday. I do my best, tho.

Hi Dr. B, I appreciate your work and I see you linked all over the place, so your valued and respected, and that’s what it’s all about.

Thanks T for linking me here..I’ve emailed the talk radio guy all my GW stuff. I’m not holding my breath, but you never know. OK, I know. It’s probably DOA, but you gave me the confidence to try. Thanks.

I’m going to type this sentence here just for posterity: Anthropogenic, catsatrophic global warming is a hoax.

There, I feel better.

=;-)~

Comment posted by the Grit
at 2/26/2007 4:24:12 PM

Hi w,

No thanks necessary. Your blog is on my reading list because I enjoy it, so the thanks should go to you. My only regret is that, as I continue to explore, my list grows, so I don’t get to every place I want to visit every day. I keep hoping my cable company is not just taunting me with the promise of cable modem service, but I begin to suspect they are run by Satan’s minions.

Fly fishing, I must warn you, is not fun, but is a passion! Approach it cautiously.

As to AlGore, yes, I heard. I am torn between the fear that he may run for President again, and the hope that he will. On one hand, we have the utter catastrophe of his win, while, on the other hand, if he enters the race, there will be the glorious battle with Hillary. Best would be that they go on a fact finding trip to the Arctic, fall through the ice, and vanish forever.

the Grit

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/26/2007 3:46:59 PM

Hi Grit,

Thanks for stopping in to comment:)

Yes, we reside in the beautiful state of WY. However, we do not fly fish. I always thought it might be something fun to take up, but just haven’t yet. My husband fished in SW KS growing up, but just hasn’t had the time since moving to WY back in 2002.

By the way, I guess you’ve heard that Algore won his oscar ….

Comment posted by the Grit
at 2/26/2007 3:29:33 PM

Hi Doctor Bulldog,

I was reading something the other day on pollution and Global Warming. It mentioned that the sulfur emissions we eliminated in the first round of environmental insanity, actually caused a cooling effect around the globe. Thus, it would seem that Climate Change is the fault of the very people who are harping about it :)

Hi w,

I got the impression from some comment here that you are in Wyoming, and I am compelled to ask if that is true, and, more to the point, do you fly fish? Ah, how I miss that, here in Memphis!

the Grit

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/25/2007 7:20:25 PM

Thank you for stopping by and leaving a comment Dr. Bulldog.

Yes, it looks like we may need to get rid of emission standards if we are going to cool down the earth:)

Comment posted by doctorbulldog
at 2/25/2007 6:30:20 PM

Al Gore causes Global Warming everytime he opens his mouth! He has yet to explain how previous Global Warming cycles occurred without human interaction. To say that Global Warming is caused by humans, just because it began during the industrial revolution of the 20th century is, at best, circular reasoning.
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From Wikipedia:

The scientific method involves the following basic facets:

* Observation. A constant feature of scientific inquiry.

* Description. Information must be reliable, i.e., replicable (repeatable) as well as valid (relevant to the inquiry).

* Prediction. Information must be valid for observations past, present, and future of given phenomena, i.e., purported “one shot” phenomena do not give rise to the capability to predict, nor to the ability to repeat an experiment.

* Control. Actively and fairly sampling the range of possible occurrences, whenever possible and proper, as opposed to the passive acceptance of opportunistic data, is the best way to control or counterbalance the risk of empirical bias.

* Falsifiability, or the elimination of plausible alternatives. This is a gradual process that requires repeated experiments by multiple researchers who must be able to replicate results in order to corroborate them. This requirement, one of the most frequently contended, leads to the following: All hypotheses and theories are in principle subject to disproof. Thus, there is a point at which there might be a consensus about a particular hypothesis or theory, yet it must in principle remain tentative. As a body of knowledge grows and a particular hypothesis or theory repeatedly brings predictable results, confidence in the hypothesis or theory increases.

* Causal explanation. Many scientists and theorists on scientific method argue that concepts of causality are not obligatory to science, but are in fact well-defined only under particular, admittedly widespread conditions. Under these conditions the following requirements are generally regarded as important to scientific understanding:

* Identification of causes. Identification of the causes of a particular phenomenon to the best achievable extent.
* Covariation of events. The hypothesized causes must correlate with observed effects.
* Time-order relationship. The hypothesized causes must precede the observed effects in time.

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So, the, “scientists” who say that Global Warming is a product of the Industrial Revolution are using the, “Casual Explanation” to hypothesize their scenario.

In fact, we all could use the, “Casual Explanation” to explain just about anything, and then say that we are used a scientific approach to arrive at our conclusions, but cannot test it, because it is on too large a scale for testing. For instance, I could conjecture that the moon causes women to have periods, since the lunar cycle is about the same for the menstrual cycle - see, “Dr. Winnifred Cutler’s 1980 study of the lunar cycle’s influence on menstrual cycles published in the American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology” However this is a, “Casual Explanation” that cannot be proved through scientific testing. If the moon were to be hurled out of earth orbit by a passing large object, and all of a sudden, women stopped having menstrual cycles, then, okay, I would have to say that the theory has validity. But, I seriously doubt that to be the outcome of such a scenario.

In the case of Global Warming, if all the man-made greenhouse gasses were suddenly removed, then we could observe the results, and make a truly scientific study of Global Warming.

BTW - The earth actually cools down during intense cycles of volcanic activity because of the large amounts of debris in the atmosphere reflecting and blocking the sunlight. So, if we actually are causing a significant increase in global warming, we

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/25/2007 5:06:11 PM

Hi Kathy –

Yes, I think Hillary would spazz out too. Though, I relish the thought. The more demonrats to self destruct in the primary, the better.

Comment posted by kathy
at 2/25/2007 4:43:32 PM

Total forgot what the post was about by the time I got through the comments! tieki rae handled it nicely it seems.

To grits comments.. Hillary would surely have a heartattack. (hehehe that would almost be worth it!)

Have a great evening!

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New evidence prompts renewed call for pardon of Border agents

Let’s just hope these men are still alive by the time justice finally prevails.

From OneNewsNow again:

A North Carolina congressman is once again calling on President Bush to pardon two imprisoned Border Patrol agents in light of the release of court transcripts from their trial. The lawmaker says he hopes to make public a letter to the president on the matter in hopes of rallying Americans to the defense of the agents.

North Carolina Congressman Walter Jones is sending yet another letter to the White House today, urging the president to take action on behalf of El Paso Border Patrol agents Ignacio Ramos and Jose Alonso Compean. The men are serving 11 and 12 years respectively in a federal prison for shooting a fleeing illegal alien who was attempting to smuggle 743 pounds of marijuana into the U.S. The Mexican national was granted immunity for testifying against the agents.

Representative Jones is seizing on a report that shows the judge in the case did not allow the defense to present evidence to the jury of a second drug offense committed by the illegal alien. That revelation prompted yet more outrage from critics who say the government was more interested in prosecuting the agents than the drug smuggler.

The lawmaker explains he and more than 50 of his Republican House colleagues plan to solicit the president’s intervention in getting Ramos and Compean out of prison until all the appeals have been heard. “I believe sincerely that the prosecutor, Mr. Sutton, down in Texas … was overzealous in this effort,” says Jones. “I think there’s too many questions about the indictment and the prosecution for these men to be sitting in federal prison.”

Jones vows that he and his colleagues will not let the issue go — even though Congress is in recess this week and most lawmakers are back home. “I can assure you … we are preparing a letter to the president to bring this to his attention,” he says, adding that they plan to release the letter publicly in hopes that “the American people will again rally and ask the president to pardon these two men.”

An attorney for agent Ramos has asked for a mistrial, arguing prosecutor Johnny Sutton withheld an exculpatory Department of Homeland Security memo from the defense during the trial.

Comment posted by velvethammer
at 2/26/2007 10:40:57 PM

I believe it is nearly official. Bush does not care about the seriousness of the border situation, if he allows this injustice to continue. Can anyone say… globalization….North American Union. Hmm… And as far as sutton is concerned he should be ran out of office on a rail, for railroading Ramos and Compean as he has.

Congressman: Bush ‘doesn’t give a damn’
http://worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=54418

Also came across this bit of news.
2 taken into custody in border-area gunfire
http://www.azstarnet.com/sn/border/170933

I’m very interested in how it will play out.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/25/2007 5:03:16 PM

Agreed theobromophile. This case is beyond absurd. I hate thinking of these two men in prison. Some reward for protecting the border.

Thanks for commenting :)

Comment posted by theobromophile
at 2/25/2007 4:48:59 PM

A single day is too long for these men to be in prison.

What shocks me - but shouldn’t - is that the main stream media is not all over this case. It’s beyond absurd and a true miscarriage of justice.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/24/2007 1:39:10 PM

Thanks Kathy. Always appreciating your comments:)

Comment posted by kathy
at 2/24/2007 1:33:20 PM

Yes Ma’am lets hope. They needs to pardon these men now, this case is a travesty.

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Fugitives captured in Canada

Only because I blogged about their more than easy escape. Let’s bring some closure here. Okay, that’s the last 15 seconds of fame I’m giving these thugs. I do wonder if they will go to real jail or fake honor jail.

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Illegal alien received ‘rewards’ to testify against Border agent

Anyone find this surprising?

A top executive with the Minutemen Civil Defense Corps says he’s pleased that a former Border Patrol agent is now free after it was learned that prosecutors had given an illegal immigrant various incentives to testify against the agent.

David Sipe was convicted in 2001 for using excessive force in the arrest of a Mexican national in 2000. But the conviction has since been reversed after an appeals court ordered a retrial, saying the illegal alien had been given a “get-out-of-jail-free card,” a Social Security number, and cash incentives to testify against Sipe.

Al Garza, national executive director of the Minuteman Civil Defense Corps, says he finds it “totally bizarre” that a court would find the testimony of an illegal immigrant more credible than that of a law enforcement officer. He is hopeful that Sipe’s acquittal will be a good sign for two other former Border Patrol agents, convicted in a similar case.

Those agents remain in federal custody — Jose Alonso Compean, sentenced to12 years in prison, and Ignacio Ramos, 11 years — after being convicted of failing to file proper documentation in the shooting of an illegal alien drug trafficker they were chasing. Garza contends Compean and Ramos were just “doing their job.”

UPDATE:  A few links regarding undocumented workersissuing credit cards to undocumented workers, and upcoming marching on the Pentagon. More may be added as I run across them.

Comment posted by velvethammer
at 3/3/2007 11:11:22 AM

Isn’t that something. There is something going on that is all out wrong! I am so mad I can not see straight. WTH! Just imagine how those closly involved feel. Someone should be sent up the river, and it sure as hell isn’t the ones who have been imprisoned for doing their duty!

Comment posted by Kevin
at 2/24/2007 1:47:37 PM

It’s just amazing that they give immunity to an illegal alien criminal to convict two of our men on the front line. Whose side is our justice dept. on anyway? If I were in charge of Homeland security and this same incident occurred, I’d suspend them for a week (and if it happened again, I’d suspend them for a week without pay).

Why, why, why do we care more about illegal alien drug smugglers than our own protection force? America has a sickness.

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U.S. Tourist in Costa Rica Kills Mugger

Sweet. I just love stories with happy endings.

SAN JOSE, Costa Rica (AP) — A tour bus of U.S. senior citizens defended themselves against a group of alleged muggers, sending two of them fleeing and killing a third in the Atlantic coast city of Limon, police said on Thursday. One of the tourists _ a retired member of the U.S. military aged about 70 _ put assailant Warner Segura in a head lock and broke his clavicle after the 20-year-old and two other men armed with a knife and gun held up their tour bus Wednesday, said Luis Hernandez, the police chief of Limon, 80 miles east of San Jose.

The two other men fled when the 12 senior citizens started defending themselves. The tourists then drove Segura to the Red Cross where the man was declared dead. The Red Cross also treated one of the tourists for an anxiety attack, Hernandez said.

The tourists left on their Carnival cruise after the incident and Hernandez said authorities do not plan to press any charges against them, saying they acted in self defense.

“They were in their right to defend themselves after being held up,” Hernandez said.

Hernandez said Segura had previous charges against him for assaults.

In a media statement, Miami, Fla.-based Carnival Cruise Lines said the Wednesday incident occurred during an outing at a Limon beach which a group of a dozen passengers had arranged on their own.

“According to witnesses, while sightseeing at a local beach, the group of guests were approached by three assailants, one of whom was armed,” the statement said.

“The victims struggled with the armed perpetrator, and were able to disarm him. During this process, the gunman’s two accomplices fled the scene. In the course of disarming and restraining the assailant, he died from apparent asphyxiation.”

Neither the Costa Rican police nor Carnival identified the man involved in the struggle with the mugger.

The cruise line said the guests were questioned by local law enforcement and then returned to the ship. The ship’s departure from Limon was slightly delayed to await their return.

“All of the guests involved, who had booked the cruise together as a group, have opted to continue with their vacation plans. Carnival is providing full support and assistance to the guests,” according to the statement.

The ship, The Carnival Liberty, continued on its scheduled itinerary, with a port call scheduled in Colon, Panama.

Isn’t it awesome to see people stand up against crime? Criminals love it when people are trained to just give them what they ask for — this way no one gets hurt. Well, entering into a type of social contract with a criminal is not smart. I mean, you are trusting a criminal to keep their end of a bargain, and criminals are lying thugs. Sometimes someone should get hurt, and that someone should be the criminal. It really is the quickest way to learn that crime doesn’t pay.

UPDATE: Looks like Allah over at H/A found this story too.

UPDATE: This story gives a few more details. Apparently the senior citizen who “snapped” the perp’s neck was a former Marine (I’ve learned there is no such thing as a former Marine.)

Comment posted by kabababrubarta
at 3/26/2007 6:08:18 PM

Good site! kabababrubarta

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/23/2007 8:56:28 PM

LOL Hank. I’m still at work when Oprah is on. Maybe I should record it :)

Comment posted by icanplainlysee
at 2/23/2007 8:51:23 PM

Hi T,

Maybe your jumping to ill advised conclusions about this.

Clearly, any group of men who would arm themselves and prowl the dark streets, looking for an easy mark to rob, and possibly injure or kill, are also most certainly men with poor upbringings, bad parenting, maybe just in need of food or diapers, and aside from the armed robbery thing, good guys.

If you watched Oprah more often you would know this stuff.

=;-)~

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Israeli Candidate Wants to Assassinate Iranian Leader

Sounds like a plan. Who needs another Hitler?

The president of Jewish Leadership (Manhigut Yehudit), a pro-Jewish movement and the largest faction within Israel’s Likud Party, says that, if he is elected prime minister, he would order the assassination of Iranian strongman Mahmoud Ahmadinejad. Shmuel Sackett, international director of the movement, believes that makes Moshe Feiglin a uniquely qualified candidate to lead Israel.

Feiglin recently told an Israeli radio program that if he became Israel’s next prime minister, he would try to eliminate Ahmadinejad by dispatching a special operations squad to Iran with orders to assassinate the Iranian dictator. Sackett, who co-founded Jewish Leadership with Feiglin, says the movement’s president is “serious” about taking out the Iranian leader, who has repeatedly vowed to wipe Israel off the map.

Feiglin “wants to send a team in to immediately annihilate this individual and put him into the history books,” Sackett notes. And this is significant, he suggests, because “[w]e had better take our enemies seriously; no one took a guy named Adolf Hitler too seriously in the 1920’s.

“Moshe Feiglin is the only candidate, the only one in Israel today, from all sides, calling for the immediate assassination of Iranian President Ahmadinejad, the only one saying we must immediately put a bullet in this animal’s head.” Jewish Leadership’s international director emphasizes. “Nobody else is saying that,” he asserts, “and that shows people [Feiglin is] serious — he’s ready to deal with the Iranian threat.”

Sackett says Feiglin outdid former Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu in a recent poll of support for potential Israeli prime ministerial candidates. The Jewish Leadership Movement believes new elections will occur sometime next fall.

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Comment posted by julycanute
at 2/25/2007 12:29:24 PM

PS - I am not a Socialist. I am not even a liberal. I am a Democrat. I read the World Socialist Website because the writers are so intellectual and I can L E A R N. I don’t agree with everything they say but I read them and get their pov and I read others and after learning all I can I form my own opinions. Unlike you geniuses I don’t allready know everything and don’t want to be stuck with personal mindless dogmas.

I formed my opinions about liberals and Jews by reading the leftwing internet for years. In other words I formed my opinion of them by reading their own words. Which means of course that I form my own opinions and do not depend upon the opinions of others. I’m sure the jews and liberals never intended to turn me against themselves. As Abe Foxman has discovered, the internet is a huge problem for them because many people have come to criticise them and to hate Israel. Thanks liberals and Jews! And thanks to the WSWS for all I’m learning from you too!

Key word young people - L E A R N - because you don’t know everything.

Comment posted by julycanute
at 2/25/2007 12:22:15 PM

Jews are attempting to create a purely Jewish state because Israel is full of Palestinians and Christians and Muslims and Catholics and Coptics and God knows what else. If you think everyone in Israel is Jewish then you need to start at the beginning and learn about this region and then talk about it.

Comment posted by David
at 2/24/2007 9:25:36 PM

>They are a free and democratic state in an area dominated by Islamic dictatorships - which is a benefit to the entire free world.

Okay, so Israel isn’t a dictatorship, but what have they done for us? Why is Israel deserving of our unwavering support?

As I mentioned with foreign aid, approximately 70% of the foreign aid that the US gives to Israel comes back to the US economy, a pretty good investment if you ask me.

Actually, that’s a bad investment. When investing money, one typically wants to get more than 100% return.

Besides, giving money to foreign countries is not one of the federal government’s constitutional powers.

You ask what Israel has done for us, but can you give any examples of where they have done something against us?

Well, our lopsided relationship with Israel is one of the major reasons why we have a terrorism problem.

Comment posted by tieki rae
at 2/24/2007 12:16:05 PM

I was actually going to try to explain the facts to you until I realized that A) You are not interested in facts. You are interested in propaganda… which leads me to B) You quoted the World Socialist Website.

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/24/2007 12:12:29 PM

Jews are attempting to create a purely Jewish state just as Hitler attempted to create a purely Aryan state and like Hitler slaughtered those who were different Jews are slaughtering all non-jews. If Hitler was wrong how is Israel right?

Not sure quite how to break this to you genius, but Israel is a Jewish state. Not trying to create one, that’s who they are.

May I suggest that you read Jimmy Carter’s book Palestine: Peace not Apartheid? You might learn something.

Somehow, I doubt it.

I was under the impression that when Jews are not attempting to take Christ out of Christmas and engage in anti-Christian hatred and stereotying…

Actually, that credit should go to the ACLU.

Oh my God what would we do without Israel! Well for one thing we would still have the World Trade Center and trillions of dollars and no holocaust against Iraqis.

You really are an idiot. Common sense could not infiltrate a brain that thinks on such a stupid level.

Comment posted by julycanute
at 2/24/2007 10:28:02 AM

Jews are attempting to create a purely Jewish state just as Hitler attempted to create a purely Aryan state and like Hitler slaughtered those who were different Jews are slaughtering all non-jews. If Hitler was wrong how is Israel right?

Obviously you have no idea what you are talking about. Jews are driving Palestinians out which tells me that if Jews were driven into the sea it would be acceptable based upon the condoning of what they are doing to Palestinians. Please explain what the difference would be? Palestinans have the same DNA as the Jews of ancient Israel so anti-semitism is what is being done to them.

Jews want to drive all the Palestinians out and take all of the land and create a Greater Israel and become the only power in the middle east with Arab nations as minor satellites revolving around it. First we must break up these Arabs nations for them as we have done with Iraq.

May I suggest that you read Jimmy Carter’s book Palestine: Peace not Apartheid? You might learn something.

Its amazing that you believe that if Israel were destroyed America would be next. Could you please explain how that could happen? Is Israel protecting us? I am so confused. I was under the illusion that the jews had been trying for 60 years to get rid of a bunch of camel herders but so far with little success.

I was under the impression that when Jews are not attempting to take Christ out of Christmas and engage in anti-Christian hatred and stereotying they were trying to worm their way into the United States government in order to get the hated Christians to get rid of the Palestinians and other Arabs for them. I imagined that if they had discovered America they would still be getting scalped by Indians. Now you tell me they are protecting us!

Oh my God what would we do without Israel! Well for one thing we would still have the World Trade Center and trillions of dollars and no holocaust against Iraqis.

I am saying that according to the words of the avenger who attacked us on 9-11 he did it because of our policies toward Israel. He should know. I do not condone what happened on 9-11 and I wish to address the reasons for it and to have a discussion of the causes of 9-11 which is mucking Israel and our policies toward it and the Palestinians. I do not agree with our policies toward Israel and the last time I looked I’m an American who has every right to oppose the terrorist engine of the world and the neo-nazis who occupy it and who deserve the fate that Hitler and Saddam got. Is that clearer for you.

Furthermore to clear up more of your illogical bs we have created more terrorism by invading a nation that has done nothing to us and dropping 500 pound bombs on innocent men women and children who didn’t even have a plane to put into the air in their own defense. This is what I refer to as the Israelization of the United States and in any way possible I will halt their evil influence upon my country and its destruction since they certainly don’t care about us and are the most racist people on the planet because they only care about themselves.

If enpowered as you imagine it to be Israel would be the one to destroy us and my evidence for that is what they are doing to us at this very moment. American Jews have done everything possible to destroy our culture and Christianity and to remake this nation in their own ugly image. Even they say this

http://www.wsws.org/articles/2007/feb2007/holl-f24.shtml

60% of Democrats’ campaign money comes from Jews and most of the evil neocons are Zionist jews. You figure it out.

Comment posted by tieki rae
at 2/24/2007 8:47:41 AM

“What has Israel ever done for us?”

They are a free and democratic state in an area dominated by Islamic dictatorships - which is a benefit to the entire free world. As I mentioned with foreign aid, approximately 70% of the foreign aid that the US gives to Israel comes back to the US economy, a pretty good investment if you ask me. You ask what Israel has done for us, but can you give any examples of where they have done something against us?

Comment posted by wytammic
at 2/23/2007 8:42:17 PM

Ease up on the painkillers David.

Comment posted by David
at 2/23/2007 7:53:57 PM

Seriously. Israel is the best ally that the United States has ever had and ever will have.

What has Israel ever done for us?

They’ve given us nothing but trouble.

Comment posted by David
at 2/23/2007 7:52:28 PM

As for Iraq and Saddam not having anything to do with 9/11 — Saddam not only condoned the attacks

So?

but was running terrorist training camps from with Iraq.

You mean from the areas he didn’t control?

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