Ironic Surrealism II

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• 1 marlene // Mar 5, 2008 at 6:05 pm

  NEVER should a person with dual-citizenship be able to run for president. NEVER! We have enough trouble with those politicians who sell us out for the money. We don’t need to add idiological sellouts to undermine our patriotism - something America, with her legs wide open to ANY and ALL immigrants, doesn’t need - period!

• 2 Black Sheep // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:31 pm

  The U.S. recognizes dual citizenship. I think the idea is less of a problem to accept when it’s someone we like. I don’t like Hussein.

  The idea of finding his birth certificate is brilliant! I think I’ll go do an archive search. If I find one I’ll let you know.

• 3 Velvet Hammer // Mar 6, 2008 at 1:42 pm

  Cool thanks Black Sheep!

  Edit: And thanks for the link. I have added you to my blogroll to.

  

• 4 Mary Holmes // Mar 13, 2008 at 12:23 pm

  Senator Obama’s mother and father were not legally married when he was born because his father was already married in Kenya.

  Since his mother’s last name at the time was Dunham, why could he claim his father’s name? Most babies were given the name of the unmarried mother. Would be interesting to see the official birth certificate.

• 5 Velvet Hammer // Mar 13, 2008 at 12:59 pm

  Mary

  Welcome.

  Maybe his mother felt that ‘Barack Hussein Obama’ rolled off the tongue more so than ‘Barack Hussein Dunham’.

  Yes that is what I have learned. Their marriage may not of been legit, in the eyes of the law. US law that is. What a ne’er-do-well his father was. My..my…my. So can Obama technically be called a bastard ? lol

  Bad joke I know. But kinda funny.

  His birth father, that is really is all the man was. Grabbed another American woman on his way back to Kenya. And still made time for the Kenyan wife he had left behind while gallivanting about in the US, once he returned to Africa.
  A fine upstanding figure of a man. Heh.

• 6 Velvet Hammer // Mar 13, 2008 at 1:08 pm

  A couple more points of interest. Obama lied about his fathers humble upbringing. And as a matter of fact Michelle O lied about her own upbringing. Making it sound worse than it was.

  I do not trust anything that comes out of their mouths.

• 7 Matt Rohrer // Mar 19, 2008 at 4:13 pm

  When our kids were born, the race recorded on the birth certificates was that of their mother, which is different from mine.

  Wonder if the same is true for Obama’s?

• 8 Velvet Hammer // Mar 19, 2008 at 5:17 pm

  Hello Matt

  Welcome!

  That is an interesting question. I would like to know myself.

  Sorry about the typo on your name. - VH

• 9 Ray // Apr 2, 2008 at 3:10 pm

  I was born a Christian in a Muslim dominated country, Egypt. I found it very unfair to Sen. Obama to discramennate against him because of his religion.
  Ok, His father was a muslim, his step-father was a muslim, lets assume that he had some islamic influence in his upbringing in Indonesia. But he CHOSE Christ, Are we gonna penalize him for choosing Christ? Think about it!!

• 10 Velvet Hammer // Apr 2, 2008 at 4:46 pm

  Ray
  If you truly believe in your heart that Obama is a Christian or his so called church TUCC is a Church of Christ you are delusional.
  Obama chose that very church TUCC so he could obtain some cred. He was a radical thinker then, was raised by his mother as such and his choice of Church reflects that. He is no different now than he was then. If he did not sympathise with what that POS rev wright preaches he would of left long ago. Let alone raise his daughters in that den of bigotry masked as a house of the Lord.

  He just lies to cover it up Obama is selling snake oil to a large part of the country and I cringe when I think he may (God forbid) become our next president.

  Do yourself a favor stop thinking with your emotions and open your eyes.
  Learn the truth.

• 11 Mystery Man Obama « TexasDarlin Blog // Apr 9, 2008 at 3:37 pm

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• 12 cbiggie // May 4, 2008 at 7:07 am

  Good point Ray. Where is Obama’s baptism certificate btw? In the black church, you can’t just throw off your pastor and your faith like a jacket… either you went a few times and didn’t like it and looked for another home church, or you thought this was the definitive black church/radical experience (what did he have to compare it to), he agreed with him to the point he had his kids listen to it, he keeps his pastor in the basement for prayer after a last minute rejection re: his announcement because…

  Either the church is a cover and strictly for politics, or this is what you’re about… hence you get your kids baptized there.

  I must say, Wright didn’t lay down the scripture, Obama has some screwy interpretations (outside of Wright’s twists).

  We must keep taqiyya in our minds regardless.
  Minister Farrakhan himself said he was ‘well groomed’ (he wasn’t speaking on haircuts and suits).

  I could also use some pictures of him at events at TUCC, since he was a beloved representative in Chicago.

  What Christian would have you pull teeth to get something out of them and evade? You give a reason for your joy, not run from it… unless you never believed.

  BTW all, the Wright thing was a setup re: Axelrod stating he was to hire a PR firm to help Trinity and Wright due to the bad press and harassment of press at the church. I guess folks missed that before this.

  Oh… read these:

  Pastor inspires Obama’s audacity (bio part)
  Here, here and here.

  Umm… and about that sermon he named his book after… you need to see this:

  I also need to know how he got his father’s name in Hawaii back then when he was already married to someone else… as well as how his mother was on food stamps staying in on the grandparents and when globetrotting to Indonesia and Pakistan. What was his status in Indonesia anyway… American passport?

• 13 fact finder // May 10, 2008 at 7:47 pm

  Barack Obama won’t release his birth certificate. This is because his name at birth was “Barry” and it would serve as evidence that he later took the Muslim names of Barack Hussein when he was young and studying the Koran. It isn’t unusual for Muslim men to take on new names when they have a renewed interest in Islam.

• 14 trey100k // May 17, 2008 at 11:12 pm

  Actually you are all wrong. The real reason his birth certificate won’t be released until after the election is that he would be disqualified due to the fact that his mother needed to have waited 3 more years for him to have automatic U.S. citizenship. Please read on….

  It seems that Barack Obama is not qualified to be president afterall for the following reason:

  Barack Obama is not legally a U.S. natural-born citizen according to the law on the books at the time of his birth,
  which falls between “December 24, 1952 to November 13, 1986″ . Presidential office requires a natural-born
  citizen if the child was not born to two U.S. citizen parents, which of course is what exempts
  John McCain though he was born in the Panama Canal.

  US Law very clearly stipulates:

  “…If only one parent was a U.S. citizen at the time of your birth, that parent must have resided
  in the United States for at least ten years, at least five of which had to be after the age of 16.”

  Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born,
  which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years,
  (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for
  being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship.
  At most, there were only 2 years elapsed
  since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i.

  His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born
  citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent.

  Obama instead should have been naturalized, but even then, that would still disqualify him from holding the office.

  *** Naturalized citizens are ineligible to hold the office of President. ***

  Though Barack Obama was sent back to Hawai’i at age 10, all the other info does not matter because his mother is the one who needed
  to have been a U.S. citzen for 10 years prior to his birth on August 4, 1961, with 5 of those years being after age 16.
  Further, Obama may have had to have remained in the country for some time to protect any citizenship he would have had,
  rather than living in Indonesia.

  Now you can see why Obama’s aides stopped his speech about how we technically have more than 50 states, because it would have led to this discovery.

  This is very clear cut and a blaring violation of U.S. election law.

  I think the Gov. of California would be very insterested in knowing this if Obama were elected President without being
  a natural-born U.S. citizen, and it would set precedence. Stay tuned to your TV sets because I suspect some of this information will be leaking through over the next several days…

• 15 Akira // May 20, 2008 at 8:58 am

  Re: Middle Name: Barack Pussein Obama

  Re: Loyalties: His loyalties are with his race [i.e. “African” - he reveres his father who abandoned him and denigrates his white mother and her family], and his tribe [Luo - he sided with the Muslim Luo opposition in Kenya].

  Re: Jesus Christ: Obama’s “Church” is Christian? They preach that Jesus was “a Black man”. That is a lie. He say’s he prays to Jesus. Fine. But who is his “Jesus”? BTW, even the Devil believes in God.
  I think most of his far leftism comes from and is boosted by Michelle Obama.

  Akira’s last blog post..RCMP investigating Canadian Human Rights Commissioners

• 16 PMEND // May 28, 2008 at 8:13 pm

  BARAK IS FAKE HE DOES NOT SWEAR WITH THE BIBLE AND TURNS HIS BACK ON THE FLAG. NOBODY IS ACCUSING HIM WHAT HES NOT DOING…HE’S DOING IT INFRONT OF MILLIONS.

  SO RAY…STOP DEFENDING HIM JUST BECAUSE U HAVE SOMETHING IN COMMON WITH HIM A MUSLIUM.

• 17 richard // May 29, 2008 at 8:29 pm

  to trey100k
  hallow-
  I am also researching obama’s birth details but I have only found that the MAGIC age is 14 years old thus only one year becomes the gap, something his camp could easily dispute.ie, change!!
  can you provide your sourse for the 16 years age? a pre 1986 law prehaps?
  when this ‘discovery’ is made public surly a court challenge would be in order - who is best positioned to mount such a challenge?
  RAS

• 18 Velvet Hammer // May 29, 2008 at 10:54 pm

  Wow You all have really bantered about some interesting thoughts. Please do continue.

  trey100k

  Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was born,
  which means though she had been a U.S. citizen for 10 years,
  (or citizen perhaps because of Hawai’i being a territory) the mother fails the test for
  being so for at least 5 years **prior to** Barack Obama’s birth, but *after* age 16. It doesn’t matter *after* . In essence, she was not old enough to qualify her son for automatic U.S. citizenship.
  At most, there were only 2 years elapsed
  since his mother turned 16 at the time of Barack Obama’s birth when she was 18 in Hawai’i.

  His mother would have needed to have been 16+5= 21 years old, at the time of Barack Obama’s birth for him to have been a natural-born
  citizen. As aformentioned, she was a young college student at the time and was not. Barack Obama was already 3 years old at that time his mother would have needed to have waited to have him as the only U.S. Cizen parent.

  Fascinating! Could that be the catch?

• 19 richard // Jun 1, 2008 at 11:03 am

  to tray100k
  This is very interesting but the age is 14 not 16 but even so she was still one year out so to speak.
  In american immigration law a new born,born to only one US natrual born citizen which in this case would be his mother — stanly Ann Dunham- thus Barry Dunham would or should be on his birth certificate. for him to change his name at birth to OBAMA his father would have had to ADOPT him, there is no evedence that he did this thus his name remains Dunham. When his mother remarried his name was changed to Soetro but how? his new father would also have had to adopt him to change his name , and make him a citizen of Indonesia,however barry returned to honolulu somehow on his second fathers passport. his grandparents did not change Barry’s legal status so for some reason he kept the name Soetoro until he changed it yet again to Barack Hussein obama but he did not do it legally by deedpole thus he should still be using his real name. The question of wether he is a citizen of Indonesia or Kenya both of which he claims, is open to question because of the lack of any legal documentation available at present
  the other interesting issue you raise is citizenship of the united States if you leave the country for an exstended period of time , yes , the answer is 5 years - however it would appear that barry left for under slightly 5 years so he may be safe on that one .
  what is more important is how did he get back into the United states legally?

  I agree with you that the media has no interest in these issues but I wonder if the INS can be moved to properly investigate this obviouse lACK of enforcement concerning his mothers status.
  source :
  www.immigration-usa.com
  http:/answers.usa.gov.com

  CC I live in philadelphia and we have
  a very famouse name change here which agrivates all normal people.
  MUMIA ABU-JAMAL real name
  wesley cook–murderer of police officer Danial Faulkner

  RAS

• 20 Akira // Jun 2, 2008 at 8:21 am

  How about “Crackfuckedupmybrain Obama”?

  Akira’s last blog post..Obama’s People: “America is the Greatest Sin against God!” “God Damn America! It’s in the Bible!”

• 21 Velvet Hammer // Jun 5, 2008 at 4:07 pm

  LOL Akira!

• 22 Debbie // Jun 9, 2008 at 10:13 pm

  Linked ya on this.

  “What’s his name and where was he born?”

  Debbie’s last blog post..What’s his name and where was he born?

• 23 Michelle Malkin » The buzz about Barack’s birth certificate // Jun 10, 2008 at 5:39 am

  […] Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to […]

• 24 Right Voices » Blog Archive » Why Won’t The Obama Campaign Release A Copy Of The Birth Certificate? // Jun 10, 2008 at 6:16 am

  […] informs us: “Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the […]

• 25 Is Obama Eligible to Be President? at Buried Planet // Jun 10, 2008 at 8:00 am

  […] Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal. […]

• 26 Dewey Napoleon - bring me the horizon » Obama won’t release birth certificate ?? Why ?? // Jun 10, 2008 at 8:10 am

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• 27 Political Party Poop // Jun 10, 2008 at 8:14 am

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• 28 The Mahablog » The Wingnut Smear Machine at Work // Jun 10, 2008 at 8:17 am

  […] Michelle Malkin is asking questions about Barack Obama. Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the St. […]

• 29 Velvet Hammer // Jun 10, 2008 at 8:41 am

  Asshat alert.

  I’d be remiss if I did not at least thank the tool for the hits.
  However shall I repay him/her/it?

• 30 WhackyNation - Exposing political wacks and media hacks » What’s Barack hiding? His birth certificate? // Jun 10, 2008 at 11:10 am

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• 31 Seamus // Jun 10, 2008 at 12:14 pm

  Huh, so this is where the dumbest people on the internet reside.

• 32 HumboldtBlue // Jun 10, 2008 at 1:26 pm

  I think you should delve into his secret Madrasa schooling again. This is clearly a Manchurian candidate scenario. I bet his dad only said he was from Kenya when really he’s Syrian. Thank God you all are on the case, because all signs point to people like us being placed in re-education camps if this monster gets elected by the sheeple.

• 33 Velvet Hammer // Jun 10, 2008 at 1:30 pm

  LMAO!

  Top Ten Reasons Obama Won’t Release His Birth Certificate

• 34 Velvet Hammer // Jun 10, 2008 at 1:34 pm

  HumboldtBlue

  Thanks for stopping by. Shrug..I don’t know about all that but there still may be more than meets the eye.

  seamus

  Nope. You took a right turn when you should of taken a left.
  Scurry on now your kindred are waiting for you. You are already late. Tsk..tsk.

• 35 GWB // Jun 10, 2008 at 1:45 pm

  “I don’t know about all that but there still may be more than meets the eye. ”

  Indeed. If Barack Obama did in fact skate on false birth records that would mean he fooled:

  The Harvard Law School
  The Illinois State Bar
  The State Legislature of Illinois
  The United States Senate
  The State Department
  -and The Department of Defense

  Keep digging! And get to the bottom of what his middle name really is!

  GWB’s last blog post..President Addresses Nation on the Way Forward to Surging Back Towards Desperately Spinning the Clusterfuck That is Vietraq

• 36 Akira // Jun 10, 2008 at 1:51 pm

  Extensive info here:

  http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/06/09/obama-unfamiliar-with-the-truth

  Akira’s last blog post..Obama Unfamiliar With Truth

• 37 Colin // Jun 10, 2008 at 5:06 pm

  The correct age is 16, not 14. A 1952 Act changed the age briefly, but much of that was repealed by Bill Clinton in 1994.

  In 1961 Citizenship was passed down by the Father, not the Mother. According to the law at the time Barack would have been registered Kenyan, as his Father was.

  Those laws have been repealed effectively making Barack a US citizen by birth, in Hawaii, by Ann Dunham. However, he may not be considered a ‘natural born’ citizen.

  This is important because you must be a natural born citizen to be the President of the United States. This is the only ‘Office’ this law applies to, so far as I know.

  Read this, it says it better than I can;

  “…It has been pointed out to me that prior to 1986, someone born abroad was a U.S. citizen only if both parents were U.S. citizens at the time of the child’s birth. Since Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen, he actually cannot claim citizenship by jus sanguinis, only by jus soli with Hawaii considered a state. Again, I still don’t think this will have any actual effect on his eligibility, since the U.S. considers Hawaii a state, but in fact if you follow the legal argument that Hawaii is an occupied country and the U.S. has never legally acquired Hawaii, the logical consequence is that Obama is not a natural-born citizen by either place or parentage, and is not actually eligible for the presidency.”

  Full link; http://www.hawaiiankingdom.info/C1126750129/E20080215214658/index.html

  Essentially, in order for Ann Dunham to legally give birth to a United States citizen by Barack Hussein Obama, Sr., she needed to be 21.

• 38 Colin // Jun 10, 2008 at 5:09 pm

  Also, this argument could lead to the Supreme Court declaring Hawaii’s ’statehood’ invalid.

  All this over a birth certificate.

• 39 International Citizen // Jun 10, 2008 at 5:40 pm

  Please get the facts right. Kenya does not allow Dual Citizenship

• 40 Velvet Hammer // Jun 10, 2008 at 5:47 pm

  That is not what I said. Please get your facts straight.

• 41 Akira // Jun 10, 2008 at 11:29 pm

  Two arguments made here could be valid, but not necessarily relevant.

  1. Eligibility for office.

  I can’t imagine any serious challenge based on being born in Hawai’i to so-and-so at this age in that year etc. etc. Even if there’s a legal point, it’s just not going to happen.

  2. Bigamous father and bastard birth.

  Again, I can’t imagine that would be a reason to keep his birth cert secret.

  Even if there was fraud or deception on the certificate, it wouldn’t be Obama’s fault.

  Therefore, since it is definitely bizarre that a person running for the presidency would not make such a basic form of ID public, and it appears that something is being hidden, my guess is that the problem is his name.

  Is there a Muslim equivalent to a Christening ceremony?

  Anyway, whatever he was named/christened at birth, or however it was recorded — none of this has anything to do with Obama. Even if he changed his name later from “Barry” to “Barack” and added “Hussein” to honour his African family more — for most people that’s really neither here nor there.

  So why would a name change be a big deal?

  The only reason I can think of is that it would invalidate his Benetton-moment claim that “my parents gave me an African name …”, which would call his character into question; or it would raise suspicions that he wanted a Muslim name instead of plain old “Barry”.

  Re his character, he’s already been shown to have lied about his dad and “the day after pearl harbour”, claiming that McCain wants war for 100 years; 10,000 dead in the hurricane; his “uncle” at Auschwitz, etc, and people don’t seem to care.

  I guess he’s just trying to “negate” the negative impression of his Muslim name.

  Anyway, considering the wild [but all valid] speculations that people are engaging in, it makes one think that if he has nothing to hide, surely he’d just show some reporter his birth cert and make it a non-issue! Therefore, it seems reasonable to assume that he must have something to hide.

  My bet: his name was Barry/Barack Stanley Dunham, and he doesn’t want people to know that he changed his name to Barack Hussein as a teen/adult.

  Akira’s last blog post..Obama Unfamiliar With Truth

• 42 Truth First // Jun 11, 2008 at 1:08 am

  As a son of Africa, Barack Obama will face many challenges from the white power structure in the coming months.

  There is a new feeling, a new mood and a new sense of direction among my students as this semester comes to an end. All semester long we have discussed Barack Obama and what he represents. For the first time, students in my class are actually thinking of staying in America because of Barack Obama. He represents hope and we are hopeful

  http://african-in-america.blogspot.com

  Truth First’s last blog post..Should Obama select a non-African to be his Vice-President?

• 43 Barack Obama - Prove You Are A US Citizen « Waste Of My Oxygen // Jun 11, 2008 at 6:12 am

  […] there something on the birth certificate that will harm him. Jim Geraghty takes a look at longstanding blog buzz over Barack Obama’s birth certificate, which the campaign refused to release to the St. […]

• 44 Velvet Hammer // Jun 11, 2008 at 8:48 am

  Love letters. lol

  victor carter wrote:
  Stop it, you and Malkin can’t believe
  have the bulls*** you guys write, so
  please refrain. and if you run into
  Coulter tell her as well.

  Leh Lives wrote:
  zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
  keep grasping at straws for something to prevent this great man from
  being the
  next president..
  doesn’t Michelle Malkin have to get back to ******* Sean Hannity?

• 45 Akira // Jun 11, 2008 at 9:31 am

  Re: “For the first time, students in my class are actually thinking of staying in America because of Barack Obama. ”

  - Are you trying to give people another reason to vote McCain?

  Akira’s last blog post..Fjordman: The Execution of Britain

• 46 Velvet Hammer // Jun 11, 2008 at 10:51 am

  lol Akira

  Did you happen to check out “Truth First’s” blog?

  The exciting possibility of an African President of the United States is impossible to ignore.

  That solves our dilemma. Obama is not eligible. He’s African!

• 47 Von Cracker // Jun 11, 2008 at 11:28 am

  Smells like desperation in here! gawd….

• 48 Velvet Hammer // Jun 11, 2008 at 11:33 am

  The stench is gone now that you have vacated the premises.

  Someone must of lit a match.

• 49 Barry Soetelo might not be a US Citizen, ‘Obama’ won’t release birth certificate « The OBAMBI.com Blog www.obambi.com // Jun 11, 2008 at 11:46 am

  […] Rumor Three: His mother did not want to name him after his father, and his birth certificate says “Barry.” Perhaps the most plausible of the rumors, as Obama was known by that name through much of his childhood and young adulthood. If true, this would spur a new round of “When Barry Became Barack” stories – a minor headache for the campaign, but hardly a major scandal. […]

• 50 InDespair // Jun 11, 2008 at 12:18 pm

  I am a Hillary support who as been very disillusioned by the entire democratic process. Never have a seen a woman blatantly attacked by male (and sadly female) newsmedia as Sen. Clinton was. They did not attack her policies, but rather focused on her personally. I am also very angry by the manner in which the DNC handed over votes to Barack Obama that should not have been awarded to either candidate. The had 3 choices: 1) not count the votes in MI or FL 2) seat half the delegates from each state or 3) they could have voted to have a revote for both states. Instead, they awarded uncommitted and took delegates from Hillary. Within their own by-laws, any uncommitted votes should have been tossed. Whether you are an Obama supporter or not, let’s not pretend that this election hasn’t been bought by Ted Kennedy, John Kerry, and Oprah Winfrey. The truth about the ties between all of those people will eventually come out. Wake up Obama supporters and see who or what this man really is!!!!!!!!!

• 51 Patriot // Jun 11, 2008 at 1:52 pm

  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rXU-ZdmzNmo

• 52 Akira // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:10 pm

  Re: “Obama is not eligible. He’s African! ”

  I thought he was Indonesian!

  Well that’s just the citizenship he was registered as in school in Indonesia…

  Akira’s last blog post..The Woman is Half of the Man

• 53 Velvet Hammer // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:32 pm

  Thanks Patriot.
  Off topic but…

  Akira
  ORLY? Would that info be in one of your articles?

• 54 Akira // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:34 pm

  Some things I hadn’t heard

  [e.g. he travelled on Indonesian father’s passport, therefore must be officially Indonesian citizen]

  http://noiri.blogspot.com/2008/06/october-surpise-2.html

  How is it possible that someone can possibly be president w/o voters knowing such basic facts as Citizenship and Real Name?

  Akira’s last blog post..Michelle Obama says Barack can’t be President

• 55 Akira // Jun 11, 2008 at 2:41 pm

  Here, from theobamafile.com:

  The “An American Expat in Southeast Asia” blog reports that Obama’s Indonesian schooling began when he was entered into the Roman Catholic, Franciscus Assisi Primary School, in Jakarta, Indonesia, on January 1, 1968 and sat in class 1B.??He was registered under the name of Barry Soetoro, serial number 203.  School documents list Barry Soetoro as an Indonesian citizen and his religion was listed as Islam.

  http://laotze.blogspot.com/2007/02/indonesians-dont-see-obama-as-apostate.html

  I don’t know if it’s true.

  But how on Earth can this guy be a Senator w/o people knowing which country he’s a citizen of?

  Akira’s last blog post..Michelle Obama says Barack can’t be President

• 56 The Pros and Cons of Barack Obama « Under The Hill // Jun 11, 2008 at 6:05 pm

  […] part about Obama: he won’t release his birth certificate publicly. Also, he could be holding dual citizenships with the United States and Kenya. […]

• 57 BJS // Jun 11, 2008 at 6:09 pm

  What about the fact that John McCain was born a bastard child to a father who was a Panamanian national?

  The husband of John McCain’s mother is not his father. His father was a Panamanian national with whom McCain’s mother had an affair while in the Panama Canal Zone. McCain is a bastard child whose biological father is a Panamanian national.

  This is damaging and it means that McCain isn’t qualified to be president because he isn’t even a US citizen.

  And the McCain camp sure is quiet on this. I mean, if this isn’t true, why don’t they just dig up his father from the grave and run a DNA test to prove that the guy in the hole is really McCain’s father?

  Notice how McCain has adopted some kids of his own? Why is this? Well, he feels a kinship with these kids: kids who don’t know their real dad.

  What are you hiding John McCain? Dig your dad up from the grave and provide some DNA evidence if this isn’t true.

• 58 killer // Jun 11, 2008 at 10:30 pm

  I hope you guys are right. We need John Mcain and $200.00/bl oil and more trade deficit and more devaluation of the dollar and…

• 59 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 12:33 am

  BJS

  You’re really pathetic.

  Even if your slander were in fact true, McCain’s mother’s husband would still be his legal father.

  Moron!

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 60 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 12:40 am

  BJS,

  Re: “kids who don’t know their real dad.”

  Is that a veiled attack on poor Barack Hussein Obama Jr?

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 61 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 12:54 am

  Since I keep hearing that birth certificates are a matter of public record,

  Hawaiian Law re Birth Certificates:

  “Welcome to the Department of Health’s Online Vital Records Ordering System.

  “Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health (DOH). In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).”

  https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 62 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 1:08 am

  Apparently religion was not asked about on Hawaiian birth certificates in the early 60s.

  So, unless Obama is just embarrassed about the fact that he’s a bastard, and the likelihood that his parent’s engaged in matrimonial fraud, there are only two serious possiblities.

  1. His name is not officially Barack Hussein Obama.

  2. He was part of a multiple birth.

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 63 Truth // Jun 12, 2008 at 9:52 am

  It took a lefty website 2 seconds to find this on the internets. Why haven’t the brain trust that reside on this disgusting blog been able to find it? Must have been the education that the elite on the left clearly received.

  http://images.dailykos.com/images/user/3/BO_Birth_Certificate.jpg

• 64 Velvet Hammer // Jun 12, 2008 at 10:12 am

  First of all this post was more tongue in cheek than anything. It then grew into a serious convo via the comment thread. Thank God for KOS’ Obama slobbering man crush fueled fervor. In assisting him accomplishing such a monumental task. lol

  Secondly, a Kos Komrade has a lot of nerve accusing another site of lacking intelligence. Especially considering the disgusting propaganda and vitriol that seeps from KOS.

  But..thanks anyway. Considering the source I have no way of knowing if the image you have linked to is legit.
  Kos failed to link to the original source or at least explain where he obtained it.

  Then there is this…

  We tried to obtain a copy of Obama’s birth certificate, but his campaign would not release it and the state of Hawaii does not make such records public.

  How did Kos get his slimy hands on the supposed scanned image?
  And from where?

• 65 Velvet Hammer // Jun 12, 2008 at 11:59 am

  Akira

  Hawaiian Law re Birth Certificates:

  “Welcome to the Department of Health’s Online Vital Records Ordering System.

  “Vital records (birth, death, marriage, and divorce certificates) for events that occurred in Hawaii are received and preserved by the Office of Health Status Monitoring, a unit of the Department of Health (DOH). In Hawaii, access to vital records is restricted by statute (HRS §338-18).”

  https://www.ehawaii.gov/doh/vitrec/exe/vitrec.cgi

• 66 NotBuyinIt // Jun 12, 2008 at 12:56 pm

  That KOS image of the BC says “any alterations invalidate this certificate” yet the cert number is redacted….
  isnt that an alteration?
  besides, why redact that number unless it is to try and hide the fact it is a fake.
  Im not buyin’ it considering the source….

• 67 Anon 1 // Jun 12, 2008 at 2:55 pm

  On Barack Obama birth certificate, his father’s race is noted as African. Well African is not a race on Kenyan birth certificates. In Kenya his father’s race was noted as Black Arab. I suggest someone gets a copy of a Kenyan birth certificate. WHy did Barack Obama mother change the race of her sons’s father. I think Barack should also release the birth certificate of his father. The birth certificate Barack release is the copy he got after he changed his name. The original birth certificate was not copied for the public. I am sure his birth name was Barry. Obama is Arab American because of his father’s race.

• 68 Independent Voters 2008 // Jun 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm

  Barack Obama is indeed a US Citizen and his birth certificate has been scanned and placed online for all inquiring minds to see. This should pretty much end the discussion:

  http://www.fightthesmears.com

• 69 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 3:51 pm

  The document on Kos is clearly not an ORIGINAL birth certificate.

  My birth certificate is about 11” x 17′.

  It lists my parents’ addresses and occupations and the hospital I was born at etc etc etc.

  Some site had a 1962 Hawai’ian cert. It asked about 20 questions! including if there were any twins, triplets etc.

  There are no signatures on that Kos-cert!

  It is a document to prove a birth, it is not the original document.

  Historians would scoff at it.

  This just raises more doubts about Obama. What on Earth is his problem?

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 70 RockySt // Jun 12, 2008 at 3:53 pm

  For more info on Obama (all the dirt that will soon come out in the general election) visit

  http://www.realdealreport.com

• 71 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 4:11 pm

  Correct analysis from LGF commentator:

  “A “certificate of live birth” is a government extract of the original birth certificate filed with the state or commonwealth. The certificate shown on Kos’ page is what you would get if you applied for a duplicate of an existing birth certificate, in the event that you needed it for employment or identification, or whatever. It is NOT a copy of the original document, simply the extracted information printed onto a proprietary paper at the time of the request.”

  Furthermore, it is common practice in many US states to edit such secondary certificates to account for name-changes, sex-changes (ha, that would be a good story!, updated info (such as a newly identified father etc)

  In other words, if he changed him name he could request the id reflect that change

  Akira’s last blog post..Hey, Mohammad! Think the Little Lady was a Virgin? Think again …

• 72 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 4:52 pm

  Barack Shady Obama: The Indonesian Candidate

  http://brianakira.wordpress.com/2008/06/12/barack-shady-obama-the-indonesian-candidate/

  Akira’s last blog post..Barack Shady Obama: The Indonesian Candidate

• 73 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 4:58 pm

  Re: http://www.fightthesmears.com

  HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

  Akira’s last blog post..Barack Shady Obama: The Indonesian Candidate

• 74 Forgery? // Jun 12, 2008 at 5:01 pm

  Someone please explain… the Obama “birth certificate” that appears at fightthesmear.com is on a form that, if you look very, very carefully in the lower left corner, was revised 11/01. Yet the certificate was issued in 1961? This cannot be a certified copy. I smell a rat.
  See for yourself……
  http://my.barackobama.com/page/invite/birthcert

• 75 Akira // Jun 12, 2008 at 5:26 pm

  Re: “Truth”:

  “Must have been the education that the elite on the left clearly received.”

  Yeah, that’s a winning election strategy!

  “Vote for Obama! He went to Princeton. His wife went to Princeton. His mother was a PhD. His father went to Harvard. He’s a millionaire. Leftys go to (and RUN) schools you can only dream of sending your kids to!”

  Yeah.

  Please run an ad like that.

  Akira’s last blog post..Barack Shady Obama: The Indonesian Candidate

• 76 Velvet Hammer // Jun 12, 2008 at 6:06 pm

  Obama may have to throw himself under the bus. (If there is any room left lol) He may not be the man he thought he was.
  

  This has piqued my interest more so than any other info given. Excepting the possibility of O’s having Indonesian citizenship. Which..may..be a stretch.
  trey100k

  Barack Obama’s father was not a U.S. citizen and Obama’s mother was only 18 when Obama was b